The Flu Vaccine–What Your Doctor Won’t Tell You (Or Probably Doesn’t Even Know)

By: Megan Pond

It’s September.  Where I live, September is the month that remains warm, but the evenings often cool down, warning of the impending weather-change about to come.  In turn this is also when flu shot signs and tables with bored looking nurses and boxes full of needles join Halloween decorations as they make their seasonal debut into stores.  ”Flu Shots Now Available” signs begin to dot big box stores’ message boards and cheap signs stuck in the grass that wave back and forth in the wind. Flu vaccines are a huge market for these stores.  It creates a big source of income at the best time of the year, so it’s only natural that they would try and advertise the heck out of them.  It often brings me to ask myself, “What are they more worried about?  My health? Or their pocketbook?”

Flu vaccine debates on the internet also make their yearly appearance and will continue for the next several months.  There, I find many false statements regarding the flu vaccine and influenza itself being swept throughout cyberspace.   Let’s identify some of these myths.

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Myth #1: There’s No Thimerosal (or Mercury) in the Flu Shot Anymore.

First, I would like to direct you to two articles: Vaccine Ingredients – A Comprehensive Guide and Is There Thimerosal in the Flu Vaccine? If you click on the first link, you can scroll down to the section that explains a little more about thimerosal and mercury in vaccines.  Here’s a quick summary of the articles’ findings.

According to the CDC, vaccines labeled “thimerosal-free” often have a little asterisk next to those words which lead you to something like: “This vaccine has ‘trace’ amounts of thimerosal, which the FDA says is equivalent to thimerosal-free products.”  If we look closer into “thimerosal-free” vaccines, we will actually find that there is still a toxic amount of mercury contained in them.

There are two kinds of flu shots given.  One contains 25 mcg of mercury (in the form of thimerosal with is 50% mercury.  There is 50mcg of thimerosal in this flu shot) and is often given as the “regular” flu shot to those with no special circumstances.  The other kind of flu shot is labeled “thimerasol-free” (containing less than 3mcg of mercury) and is given to young children and pregnant women.

If we look at “safe” and “un-safe” levels of mercury, per the FDA, we find this:

2 ppb is the maximum amount of mercury that deems water “safe” for drinking

Anything over 200 ppb mercury is considered TOXIC [source - EPA]

After doing some math [you can check my math in the article: Vaccine Ingredients – A Comprehensive Guide], we find this:

There is up to 300 ppb mercury is in the “thimerosal-free” flu vaccine.

There is 25,000 ppb mercury given in the flu shot containing 25 mcg of thimerosal as a preservative.

No matter how you cut it, flu vaccines contain toxic amounts of mercury.  So yes, the flu vaccines still DOES contain thimerosal.  The claim that there is “no thimerasol” in the flu vaccine is a complete fallacy, which leads to the next myth.

Myth #2: Sure, the Flu Vaccine Might Contain Thimerosal, but 25mcg is a Safe Amount.  Pregnant Women Can Even Eat Up to 25 mcg of Mercury Contained in Fish.

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I have heard this countless times.  First, I would like to point out that pregnant women do not get the flu vaccine containing thimerosal as a preservative.  They receive the vaccine falsely claiming to be “thimerosal-free.”  It really should be called, “thimerosal decreased, but still overly toxic.”  From the above statement, we have people running around thinking it’s safe to not only eat 25 mcg of mercury, but also to inject 25 mcg of thimerosal into their body (thimerosal is 50% mercury).

There have never been any real studies done on pregnant women and the effects of eating fish-contained mercury.  What information has been gathered is mainly based on trial and error.  Some doctors urge their pregnant patients to completely steer clear of fish altogether because of the mercury content, while others advise pregnant women to eat “low mercury fish” once or twice a week.  According to the 2010 Dietary Guidelines for Americans, eating 8-12 ounces of low mercury fish per week is safe for pregnant women.  The FDA (Federal Drug Administration) and EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) say up 12 ounces per week is safe.  The Mayo Clinic says to limit albacore tuna, chunk white tuna and tuna steak to 6 ounces per week. [source Mayo Clinic]

So then we have to ask: What is considered low mercury fish?

According to the FDA: shrimp, crab, salmon, pollock, catfish, cod, tuna, and, tilapia are considered low mercury fish.  Tuna contains the highest amount of mercury in the low mercury fish category. [source FDA.gov]

Which leads us to: How much mercury is in fish?

Using tuna as an example, which contains the highest amount of mercury in the low mercury fish category, we find out it contains approximately 128 ppb mercury.  All of the other low mercury fish are lower than that.  The fish containing the highest amount of mercury, tilefish, has 1,450 ppb mercury — very understandable that pregnant women and children are urged to not eat high mercury fish.   [source FDA.gov]

Now we’ll look at how many micrograms of mercury is in a serving of fish, again using tuna as an example.  Three oz. of tuna is considered 1 serving, so that means a pregnant woman can safely eat 1 serving of tuna 4 times a week, according to the Dietary Guidelines for Americans.  If we look at the current amount of mercury in fish (because it changes from year to year), we see that there are approximately 13.32mcg of mercury in 12 ounces of tuna, which equates to 3.33mcg per serving.  The amount of mercury in tuna sits between 12-14mcg per 12 ounces every year, and has never been recorded as going over 14mcg. [source EPA]

Therefore, we can safely come to the conclusion that the FDA standard for mercury consumption in pregnant women is a maximum of 14mcg in one week, not the 25mcg that floats around on message boards. Consuming 25mcg of mercury in fish would almost double the amount the FDA considers safe for pregnant women.

I would also like to point out that *INGESTING* mercury is very different than *INJECTING* it straight into your muscle or blood stream.  Ingesting small amounts of mercury is considered safe because it goes through a number of natural filtration systems in our body before it reaches the blood stream.  Studies suggest that eating higher amounts of mercury (anything over 200ppb) can be toxic because a small amount of mercury is able to reach the blood stream and can cause neurological disorders, immune disorders, and other significant problems. A very in-depth study done by the University of Calgary showed that even small amounts of mercury reaching the brain cannot only halt neuron growth, but it actually causes the neuron growth to *reverse*.  Neurons are integral cell bodies and nerve processes in our brains.  Unlike other body cells, neurons stop reproducing shortly after birth. Because of this, some parts of the brain have more neurons at birth than later in life because neurons die and cannot be replaced.  [source University of Calgary] [source]

By injecting mercury instead of ingesting it, you are essentially by-passing your inner filtration systems.  All of the mercury in a vaccine enters the blood stream, which leads straight to the brain.  Remember that toxic amounts of mercury is considered anything over 200ppb, and the amount of mercury in a “thimerosal-free” flu vaccine is 300 to 600 ppb – the vaccine most commonly used contains 50,000 ppb.  When you ingest mercury, the amount that reaches your blood stream is much less than the actual amount you consumed.  When you vaccinate, the entire amount of mercury reaches your blood stream.

So here’s the point: when we combine the information from Myth #1 and Myth #2, even the FDA and EPA standards for INGESTION (over an entire week) of mercury are significantly lower than the amount in even the “thimerosal-free” vaccines – which are given all at once – and are outrageously lower than the 25mcg flu vaccine which, of course, is also given all at once.

Myth #3:  Last Year I Got the Flu and I Threw Up Three Times a Day and was Constantly in the Bathroom with Diarrhea!  There’s No Way I’m Skipping my Shot This Year!

Many people, after experiencing a rough weekend of throwing up and diarrhea, come back to work and say they had an awful flu.  This is a common misconception.  The “stomach flu” is different from “the flu” that we vaccinate for.  The flu shot is ineffective against “stomach flu.”

The flu vaccine guards against “the flu.”  Flu is short for Influenza.  Many interchange the word “flu” to also mean “stomach flu,” which in fact is not a flu at all.  Many describe having the flu as being a “cold from Hell.”  Symptoms generally include fever, runny nose, head congestion, body and muscle aches, fatigue, dry cough, and sore throat. It’s definitely not fun to have and will often keep you in bed, depending on how healthy your immune system is.  Influenza is caused by a virus – meaning antibiotics are not affective against killing it.  With the influenza virus – as well as any other virus – you generally have to “wait it out” and let your body take care of killing the virus.

The “stomach flu” is scientifically called gastroenteritis and is caused by a virus, parasite, or bacteria.  The symptoms include stomach cramps, nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea and is usually caused by eating contaminated food or drinking contaminated water.  Conditions such as lactose intolerance or food allergies can also cause gastroenteritis. [source Web MD]

Myth #4: If I Get a Flu Shot, I Won’t Get the Flu! (And My Body Will Be Healthier and Stronger to Boot!)

 

 There are several different strains of influenza that cause a human to get “the flu.”  There are 3 different classifications, or genuses, of Influenza: Influenza A, Influenza B, and Influenza C.  Each genus has several different serotypes (or several different flus), under each classification.  Influenza A has been shown to affect humans the most and has 10 known serotypes, and the CDC suspects that there are over 100 different serotypes of Influenza A.  Considering that only a small percentage of people are actually tested in one year to find out what kind of flu they contracted, it is impossible to know just how many different serotypes of Influenza there are.  Most people that get the flu don’t go to the doctor or hospital, and even those that are hospitalized are not commonly tested. [source Wiki]

According to the CDC:

There are several reasons why someone might get flu-like symptoms even after they have been vaccinated against the flu.

  1. People may be exposed to an influenza virus shortly before getting vaccinated or during the two-week period that it takes the body to gain protection after getting vaccinated. This exposure may result in a person becoming ill with flu before the vaccine begins to protect them.
  2. People may become ill from other (non-flu) viruses that circulate during the flu season, which can also cause flu-like symptoms (such as rhinovirus).
  3. A person may be exposed to an influenza virus that is not included in the seasonal flu vaccine. There are many different influenza viruses that circulate every year. The flu shot protects against the 3 viruses that research suggests will be most common. Unfortunately, some people can remain unprotected from flu despite getting the vaccine. This is more likely to occur among people that have weakened immune systems. However, even among people with weakened immune systems, the flu vaccine can still help prevent influenza complications. [source CDC.gov]

Reports of “getting the flu” after vaccination is common.  Immediately following vaccination, the body’s immune system is weakened.  During that time of weakened immunity, it is common for someone to more easily contract a flu virus (or any other kind of virus), even one that the vaccine prevents against considering that it takes up to 2 weeks for the body to create enough antibodies to prevent future illness from the strains contained in the vaccine.

So how many strains are contained in this year’s vaccine?

Three.  H1N1, H3N2, and an Influenza B serotype called Brisbane.  [source CDC.gov]

How are the strains chosen for the current year’s vaccine? 

The most popular strains from the previous year become the blueprint for the current year’s vaccine.  However, according to the CDC, the most popular strains of influenza change on a yearly basis.  My red flag just went up!  If the flu vaccine for this year is made from the previous year’s most popular strains, and they change yearly, doesn’t that mean this year’s “most popular strains” will likely be different?  My internal compass says yes.  Hence,  the vaccine with last year’s most popular strains will be grossly ineffective this year.

“The viruses used in making seasonal flu vaccines are chosen each year based on information collected over the previous year about which influenza viruses are spreading.” [source flushotstogo.com]  

One interesting fact about this year’s flu vaccine (2011-2012) is that it’s EXACTLY the same vaccine as last year’s.  Nothing has been changed, yet the medical community and the government are recommending that even if you had this vaccine last year, you should still get it this year because it “wears off” in just a matter of months.  HUH?! Flu vaccines are made exactly the same way as all the other vaccines we give our children:  Inactivated virus, preservatives, chemicals, etc… except this is the ONLY vaccine they admit lasts for “just a couple of months.”  Shouldn’t that mean that other vaccines are just as ineffective?  We give those to our children and they’re supposed to last for up to 10 years after the whole series is completed. If I knew how to raise one eyebrow, I would do that now.

Myth #5: The Flu Vaccine Has Saved Countless Lives.

Influenza vaccines have been around since 1945.  Just before the flu season of 2003-2004 the CDC recommended for the first time that children younger than 60 months (5 years) and older than 6 months receive an annual flu vaccination.  About this time is when the fad of getting a flu vaccine became common for not only children under 5, but for everyone over 5 as well. [source CDC.gov] [source vaccineinformation.org]

The following is a list of different years and the number of flu associated deaths in children reported to the CDC:

  • 1999-2000 -36 deaths [source
  • 2000-2001 -30 deaths [source] 17% decrease
  • 2001-2002 – 25 deaths [source] 17% decrease
  • 2002-2003 – 29 deaths [source]  16% increase (This is the last year that the flu vaccine was considered “unsafe” by the CDC for children under 5 – now let’s watch the increase of deaths after the CDC recommends all children age 6 months to 5 years be vaccinated for Influenza.)
  • 2003-2004 – 153 [source] 427% increase
  • 2004-2005 — 47 deaths [source] 69% decrease
  • 2005-2006 – 46 deaths [source] 3% decrease
  • 2006-2007 – 68 deaths  [source] 48% increase
  • 2007-2008 – 88 deaths [source] 29% increase
  • 2008-2009 – 133 deaths  [source] 51% increase
  • 2009-2010 – 282 deaths [source] 112% increase
  • 2010-2011 – 115 deaths [source] 59% decrease

The number of children dying from the flu has risen *drastically* since the CDC recommended children under 5 receive the flu vaccine.  There has been an average of 67% increase of flu-associated death in children since the CDC recommended children under 5 receive the flu vaccine.

According to research presented at the 105th International Conference of the American Thoracic Society in San Diego, children who get the flu vaccination have a 3 times greater risk for hospitalization:

They found that children who had received the flu vaccine had three times the risk of hospitalization, as compared to children who had not received the vaccine. In asthmatic children, there was a significantly higher risk of hospitalization in subjects who received the TIV (Stands for Trivalent Influenza Vaccine – a.k.a. the flu shot), as compared to those who did not. [source Sciencedaily.com]

So in essence, parents who vaccinate their children against the flu are increasing the hospitalization risk for their child!

”The number of deaths attributed to influenza over the years is always averaged at 36,000 per year in the United States, and that number is still often used.  This number, as many people found out, was completely false and misleading.

Their claim that 36,000 Americans die from the seasonal flu is classic deception & fear mongering propaganda. Most of those deaths, as you can see by the breakdown chart below, resulted from bacterial pneumonia triggered by the Flu. And the age bracket for most victims is 65 and over. But the Flu itself is relatively innocuous by comparison, and actual flu death figures are statistically minor.  The who base Flu death averages not on the Influenza totals but on the combined Pneumonia & Influenza totals are overcoming a serious political challenge: convincing the public of the urgency to be vaccinated when the crisis is no longer perceived to be real. Without that advantage of fear, given all that we have learned about the lack of efficacy & dangers inherent to the shots, the entire Flu Vaccine Industry might very well collapse.

INFLUENZA: ACTUAL NUMBER OF DEATHS CATALOGED IN THE US
2002 – 727
2003 – 1,792
2004 – 1,100
2005 – 1,812

PNEUMONIA: ACTUAL NUMBER OF DEATHS CATALOGED IN THE US
2002 – 64,954
2003 – 63,371
2004 – 58,564
2005 – 61,189

PNEUMONIA & INFLUENZA: ACTUAL NUMBER OF DEATHS CATALOGED
2002 – 65,681
2003 – 65,163
2004 – 59,664
2005 – 63,001

The CDC and the World Health Organization (WHO) converts numbers from the third set; based on yearly fluctuations they arrive at 36,000.” [Joel Lord in VRM: “One For All” Universal Flu Vaccine – 21st Century Genetic Roulette Part 1; Founder of the VRM]

So when you hear the number of flu related deaths per year, remember that it’s a complete estimation.  The WHO and the CDC take the numbers of not only those individuals with confirmed influenza cases, but also those individuals that have not been tested to see whether or not they had influenza but died from pneumonia.  They’re taking a complete guess and assuming that about half of the individuals that died from pneumonia developed pneumonia because they contracted influenza as well, which may or may not be true.  You’ll also see that, despite a consecutive increase of flu vaccinations each year, the number of influenza AND pneumonia cases remain about the same.

At the end of all of this, we find that the Flu vaccine is dangerous and essentially ineffective.  So that means we must be doomed to live in a never-ending cycle of possibly contracting the yearly flu? 

Not so.  Studies have shown that adequate amounts of Vitamin D during the flu months (when Vitamin D levels are at their lowest) can prevent people from contracting influenza up to 100% of the time!!  And even if your Vitamin D levels aren’t as high as they need to be to completely prevent the flu, even higher than average levels of Vitamin D can greatly minimize the symptoms of the flu if you catch it.  This is one of the only safe and natural ways to prevent the flu or lessen flu symptoms.  [source Naturalnews.com][source medicalnewstoday.com] [source mercola.com] [source University of Cambridge Medical Journals]

Along with adequate amounts of Vitamin D, studies show that regular visits to a chiropractor can have significant affects on immune system health and development.  The Journal of Pediatric, Maternal & Family Health issued a release on May 04, 2009 with the headline “Flue Prevention Plan Should Include Chiropractic,” urging people to include chiropractic during this most recent flu scare. In this report, it states:

People of all ages are encouraged to add chiropractic to their strategy for warding off and fighting the flu and its effects swine flu or otherwise. Spinal adjustments can have a positive effect on immune function according to a growing number of researchers who are exploring the common denominators in disease processes, and the role of the nervous, immune, and hormonal systems in development of immune related illnesses. [source]

During the Spanish Influenza outbreak in 1918 in Davenport, Iowa, 50 medical doctors cared for 4,953 cases of the Spanish flu, and 274 of their patients died. In the same city, 150 chiropractic doctors, including students and faculty of the Palmer School of Chiropractic, treated 1,635 Spanish Flu patients where only 1 patient died.

Outside Davenport, chiropractors in Iowa cared for 4,735 Spanish Flu sufferers with only six deaths – one out of 866. In Oklahoma, out of 3,490 flu patients receiving the benefits of chiropractic care, only seven people died.

National figures for the United States show that 1,142 chiropractic doctors treated a total of 46,394 flu patients during the 1918 Spanish Flu outbreak, with a mortality rate of only 54 patients – one out of every 859, or less than 0.12 percent.

In sharp contrast, the mortality rate from Spanish flu in regular US hospitals generally ranged from 30 to 40 percent. For one hospital in New York, the mortality rate was 68 percent! [source][source]

 

 

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  1. I’m sharing this on Michele Bachmann’s wall. Thank you Marcella. I will be donating again & sending my contacts a reminder on the Billlboard Project. There are so many important tasks at hand maybe I should send a news letter. A brief as possible news letter on each urgent issue. Did you know there’s another bill besides AS499 in California? I need to find that information again to add it. It’s the same bill but in NY.

    Love,
    Marsha

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  2. Thimerosal in Vaccines | VaxTruth.org
  3. very informative

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  4. What a jaw-droppingly misleading article. ppb = parts per billion. If drinking water safety standards limits mercury to 2ppb and a shot of flu vaccine = 600ppb, you’re getting the same amount of mercury in the flu shot that you’d get in 300 flu-vaccine-vial-size containers of drinking water. That’s less than a typical water bottle holds. It’s not like 2 tablespoons vs 600 tablespoons. To compare the number of deaths attributed to flu from year to year suggests that the severity of flu outbreaks and how dangerous the virus is are exactly the same from year to year. They’re not. And, yes, it might well be that a higher percentage of children who received the flu vaccine were later hospitalized with the flu. They are the children who contracted a more severe strain because their vaccine-infused immune system was able to fight off the typical seasonal flu bug. Please do your own research before deciding whether or not to immunize your child. These web sites with sophomoric interprerations of data and studies aren’t helping parents make responsible decisions.

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    • Leslie – I can understand how you could misinterpret the information regarding ppb, but you are interpreting them incorrectly and entirely missing the point. 2ppb is the mandated LIMIT for drinking water. Most levels are significantly lower than that and every city actually strives to have 0 Mg/Ls in their water because environmentalist groups understand the seriousness of mercury. The entire western side of my state has no mercury in its water. Even so, 2ppb remains the highest amount allowed, even though most of the country remains far below that.

      Even IF we compare water with 2ppb, that is STILL the maximum amount for *INGESTION* in the body through drinking. The reason for that limit is that our natural digestive processes remove most, if not all, of the mercury from water in that amount and then dispel it from the body without becoming toxic to our bodies. The problem with a “thimerosal-free” vaccine is that it still contains 600ppb and is directly injected into the muscle which pushes it directly into the bloodstream rather than allowing natural filters to remove it from our body. Also remember that the flu vaccine that contains 25mcg of thimerosal has a whopping 50,000ppb in the small .5mL vial.

      If you drink the physical same amount of mercury by drinking enough water (with 2ppb mercury in it) that equals the amount that is in a flu vaccine, you are also adding a large percentage of water to the mercury along with that which aids in the digestion process and removal from our body. If you drink 10,000 gallons of city water, it still contains only 2ppb of mercury. The parts per billion is important to understand because studies have shown that the amount of “stuff” (liquid, food, etc) that surrounds that mercury aids in dispelling it. If you add 25mcg of mercury to 1 cup of water, and then also add 25mcg of mercury to 1 gallon of water, the effects are going to be very different. If you drink the 1 cup of water, the side effects of the mercury are going to be much more significant and outstanding versus if you drank the 1 gallon containing 25mcg. The more “stuff” that is with the mercury, the safer it is to ingest. And again, I will emphasize: INGESTION and INJECTION are *completely* different. It is much safer to ingest mercury than it is to inject it. I really urge you to look into the in-depth study done by the University of Calgary. It’s very fascinating and you can really see why mercury is such a health risk.

      The second part of your comment is apalling. You said: “They are the children who contracted a more severe strain because their vaccine-infused immune system was able to fight off the typical seasonal flu bug. “ So you’re saying that children that are vaccinated with the flu vaccine attract more serious strains of the flu?? That sounds pretty serious. I would imagine then that no parent in their right mind would vaccinate against the flu simply because it means they will attract more severe flus. Just an FYI: there is no such thing as the “typical” flu bug. This is why the they have to change the flu shot every year to include different strains of influenza – because the flu strains are constantly changing. And it’s nonsense to say that because they were able to fight off the “typical” flu bug that this allows them to contract a more serious influenza. If they get sick after a flu vaccine, it’s more likely because their immune systems are compromised for 2 weeks after receiving the vaccination, leaving them more susceptible to any type of infection or virus. If you ask me, that statement alone is “sophomoric” and seemingly pretentious. However the only impression you made on me is that you, apparently, have not done your own research.

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      • @Megan… “So you’re saying that children that are vaccinated with the flu vaccine attract more serious strains of the flu??”

        No, what she is saying is that if they come into contact with more serious strains they have the same likelihood of contracting them and be hospitalized… but

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        • @KT,

          I think you missed the point of the article…

          “According to research presented at the 105th International Conference of the American Thoracic Society in San Diego, children who get the flu vaccination have a 3 times greater risk for hospitalization.”

          They found that children who had received the flu vaccine had three times the risk of hospitalization, as compared to children who had not received the vaccine.”

          If we go by what you said KT…

          “No, what she is saying is that if they come into contact with more serious strains they have the same likelihood of contracting them and be hospitalized.”

          That would mean that there would be close to equal amounts of both vaccinated and un-vaccinated children admitted to the hospital, with both the “regular flu” and the “more severe forms”. That however is simply not the case as quoted above from the article.

          The other poster, Leslie, stated this “And, yes, it might well be that a higher percentage of children who received the flu vaccine were later hospitalized with the flu. They are the children who contracted a more severe strain because their vaccine-infused immune system was able to fight off the typical seasonal flu bug.” Which means, that 3 times more immunized children were admitted (by her reasoning) because they caught a more serious flu than the rest…

          Which means Megan’s quote was correct. “So you’re saying that children that are vaccinated with the flu vaccine attract more serious strains of the flu??”

          That is precisely what she said.

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  5. EVERY YEAR THAT I DO NOT TAKE A FLU SHOT I GET THE FLU AND AM LAID UP FOR A WEEK. WHEN I TAKE THE FLU SHOT I DO NOT GET THE FLU. SO IT’S NOT VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO DECIDED TO TAKE THE FLU SHOT!!

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    • And all you are doing is allowing your body to remain weak and Susceptible to not only this but other strains of infection, while ignoring the fact that you could be strengthening your body and immune system through holistic means, so that “every year” you are stronger and stronger, and in more ways than simply avoiding influenza. I bet a million dollars you have a bunch of other health problems, too.

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    • I never get the flu shot and never get the flu. I take vitamin D3 such that my D levels are high enough to protect me. I know people who get the flu shot who get the flu anyway so i’m not taking my chances. I can see why you would be wary, considering your history, but i just don’t trust it at all, and prefer natural vitamin D3 which i know has no negative side effects, and works VERY well. Just sharing.

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      • Vitamin D is a fat soluble vitamin, which taken without supervision of a health professional, has a chance of toxicity. Admittedly unlikely, but above statement is still a fallacy.

        As a nursing student, these arguments are frustrating. I was directed to this site by a NON-HEALTH PROFESSIONAL giving advice to a new parent who is a NON-HEALTH PROFESSIONAL. If you read to full content of every page of this site, you’ll notice this organization is maintained by NON-HEALTH PROFESSIONALS, and is NOT INTENDED TO BE MEDICAL ADVICE. Now pay attention to this. These organizations would like to give you information that may lead to a decision about the health of your child, but they are not willing to take on the legal responsibility of giving that information. Ethical issues, no? And yet, my friend’s child’s health could be compromised. I like to think I’m a fairly intelligent person. I like to question the things that I’m told. This is excellent, for example, in the case of a book called, “Lies my teacher told me” which calls into question the patriarchal tradition of teaching one view of history. Sort of an anthropologists perspective, if you will. Loewen, the author of this book explains how I may be affected in a negative way. He also has an extensive list of references… and takes responsibility for his statements. Somehow, it seems to me the immediate risk of applying this same thinking to medical advice is greater. Also, it should be noted: Holistic medicine certainly has its benefits, and can sometimes offer healthy and safe alternatives to traditional medical practices. I use holistic medicine myself. HOWEVER, it should also be noted that I use holistic medicine in conjunction with traditional medicine under the supervision of certified professionals (both in the realm of holistic and traditional medicine). So what about the people that have told me as someone who’s educated by a system supporting traditional medicine, and am thus brainwashed? I would ask you whether using one (or even several) of these sites as sources compares to the scientific research of hundreds upon hundreds of years? Also, are you qualified to comment on the pharmacology of vaccinations? How much do these companies and organizations know about biochemistry? (Insert pharmaceutical $$$ argument here… yes, I get it. Medication makes pharmaceutical companies LOTS of money… yes, there are ethical problems there. I understand that. Still, would you avoid the MMR vaccine? What do you know about Rubella?)

        So… PLEASE. Just think before you allow someone to incite you like this. Please don’t make a decision that could make the difference between life or death based on an organization that won’t take responsibility for that potential death. Use ethical organizations and companies as sources. Money motivates a lot of things, but vaccines aren’t a massive conspiracy, medical professionals are really just trying to eradicate disease.

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        • Sharreeta – I apologize for the delayed response. For some reason your comment went into the spam filter.

          It’s interesting that you bring up Vitamin D toxicity. Hypervitaminosis D is so incredibly rare that there are only 2 published cases. Both men involved took excessive amounts of vitamin D for an extended period of time. One took over 40,000 IU per day, and the other took 2,000,000 per day. Both men survived. The man that took 2,000,000 per day suffered minimal kidney damage. According to the Vitamin D Council, Vit D is “one of the safest substances known to man”, and that cases of Vit D toxicity generally occur (and really only occur) with prescription levels of Vitamin D — amounts that cannot be found over the counter. I would also like to remind you that any substance can cause toxicity, even water. While we would never urge anyone reading our posts to do anything without first consulting with their health professionals, I feel comfortable in saying that Vit D toxicity is the least of our readers’ worries. Now Aluminum toxicity on the other hand, that’s a whole different ball game. A single vaccine has enough aluminum in it to cause aluminum toxicity in any given person. The level of aluminum in one vaccine exceeds what the EPA and FDA consider to be safe. We have children suffering neurological decline and damage from the aluminum in these vaccines, and yet you’re here to complain about Vitamin D? I think your priorities are slightly off par.

          Next, your concern about our disclaimer. Most organizations and products on the face of this planet, especially non-profit organizations like ours, have a disclaimer. It is, yes, a form of protection for our organization. In our disclaimer, we also urge our readers to discuss anything they have a question about with their health care professionals. You say that there is an ethical issue with having this kind of a disclaimer. I would like to point out a few organizations that have medical disclaimers (and mind you, they are medical organizations) as well:

          Mayo clinic (this disclaimer that protects them from litigation is about 7 pages long and is also added onto the bottom of their webpages) – http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/terms-of-use/AM00006
          Harvard Medical School – http://www.health.harvard.edu/privacy_policy.php
          PubMed – http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/disclaimer/
          GlaxoSmithKline – http://www.gsk.com/terms.htm
          Pfizer – http://www.pfizer.com/general/terms.jsp
          Merck – http://www.merck.com/policy/terms-of-use/home.html
          Johnson & Johnson – http://www.jnj.com/connect/others/legal-notice

          (These are all companies or organizations that I would think you “trust.”)

          To act like it’s horrific that an incorporated like us has a disclaimer is… odd. Everyone has some sort of “liability insurance” everywhere they go. Doctor’s have malpractice insurance, you, Shareeta, hopefully have automobile insurance, and homeowners/renters insurance. If you got in a car accident that was your fault, your automobile insurance protects you from outrageous expenses caused by your negligence. You won’t go to jail, even though the law would find you guilty of seriously injuring someone, because you have this insurance. Not that you wouldn’t take responsibility for it (I hope), but it helps in the liability department. Responsibility versus liability is very different. The law, however, isn’t so black and white in the liability department. Disclaimers are needed, especially for pages like ours where we offer advice, our opinion, our education, and our research to the reader. It’s apparent we would legally need a disclaimer. Even websites that are comprised of dozens of medical doctors giving medical advice have a disclaimer very similar to ours, like mayo clinic, pubmed, etc. Would you say there is still an ethical dilemma there?

          The problem in the vaccine world is that there is NO ONE to take responsibility OR liability when there is a vaccine injury. The federal government has completely protected the vaccine makers from any sort of responsibility. If someone dies as a direct result from a vaccine, the company that made that vaccine has absolutely no responsibility. They collect all of the money from the sale of these vaccines and have to pay NOTHING out in the case that a child is seriously harmed or killed by these vaccines. Do you see no ethical dilemma there?? You are a nursing student, soon to become a nurse, that will be administering thousands of vaccines in your lifetime, and you will do so with the intention that they are safe because you were told them were safe. There have not been studies to prove they are safe because the studies that HAVE been performed are faulty. How so? The vaccine trials use the vaccine (which contains aluminum) and an aluminum-based placebo. Now we’re back to the issue of aluminum toxicity. Do you not see the dilemma there?? The vaccines are deemed “safe and effective” because the results from the trials are not significantly different than the results from the placebo. For instance, in the vaccine group you might have had 15 serious adverse events reported. In the placebo group you had 14 serious adverse events reported. This constitutes the vaccine to be safe and effective simply because the results were similar to the placebo group. That was just an example, but I urge you to read these trials. If you are going to be a nurse someday, it’s information that you need to know considering that the average medical doctor only spends an average of 7 hours on vaccine study in medical school. That’s not very long and doesn’t even allow you to get into studying the immune response in the body, let alone the neurological effects.

          To answer your question about the MMR, yes, personally, I would avoid the MMR vaccine. And what do I know about Rubella? I know that in most children that contract Rubella, they don’t even show signs or symptoms. In children that do show symptoms, they are generally extremely mild. A rash with, perhaps, mild flu symptoms. Rubella becomes a problem in the 3rd trimester of pregnancy when the virus can cause abnormalities in the fetus. Women exposed to Rubella in the first or second trimester still have a risk, but it is less than in the 3rd trimester.

          Since you bring up Rubella, do you happen to know the efficacy of the Rubella vaccine? How many children contracted rubella despite being fully vaccinated? And also, how prevalent was Rubella just prior to the vaccine? And yet another question, how many adverse reactions have been reported due to the MMR vaccine? (Remember that the AMA estimates that only 1.5% of vaccine-reactions are reported, and the CDC estimates that only 10% of vaccine reactions are reported. So take that number and do the correct math to approximate how many children have suffered due to the MMR vaccine.)

          It’s excellent that you like to question things. That’s fantastic! In fact, it’s superb!! That is what got us in the position we are today. We questioned the “norm”, found the real evidence, and are now trying to help others do the same. If there is anything in this article, or anywhere else on our site for that matter, that you have questions about, don’t just take our word for it, research it yourself! If you believe there are faults to my article, please point them out so I can help you better understand the purpose and the research behind it. We at VaxTruth are interested in people becoming informed on the topic of vaccines. There are 3 board members of VaxTruth with over 25 years of combined research on the topic of vaccines. Marcella, the founder of VaxTruth, has a Master’s of Science degree in Psychology, was a Research Assistant while in the Master’s program, received The American Psychological Foundation’s Graduate Research Scholarship award for excellence in research (generally only given to doctoral students), she has taught undergraduate statistics courses, she performed neuropsychological evaluations of children on the spectrum, practiced psychotherapy, and has worked as a biomedical consultant and Defeat Autism Now! Clinician for 5 years. She has seen, first-hand, hundreds of vaccine injured children. If you’re worried about uneducated “nutjobs” behind the desks here, you need not worry. We don’t just make up these findings. All three of us have witnessed our children suffer a vaccine injury within just a few hours of receiving their vaccinations. We’ve been there, and are here to be an advocate for the hundreds of thousands of parents that witness it for themselves every day. We’re here to help put an end to the children, and parents, that suffer needlessly.

          And lastly, if you are going to become a nurse, I strongly urge you to question what you learn in school. Question the source. Because if we’re right (and trust me, we are), that will be a lot of blood on your hands.

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          • then maybe you should quit telling people (or leading them to that conclusion!) that vaccines cause autism. It is a complete untruth. If you are so “researched,” you would already know that. In my very small town, there are people who completely believe that vaccines cause autism. In fact, autism is maybe aggravated by vaccines, but the autism already exists.

          • How do you know the autism already exists?
            Because the child has been “different” from birth?
            Did the mother receive a flu vaccine during the pregnancy? Did she have a rhogam vaccine (or two) during the pregnancy? Was the child vaccinated on the first day of life with the Hepatitis B vaccine?
            We are not leading anyone to any conclusions. We are publishing the facts, which are supported by the research – peer-reviewed medical literature.
            Vaccines cause autism.
            Autism is reversible.
            If autism was genetic, children wouldn’t be recovering from it. Their recoveries are occurring as a result of treatment for vaccine-injuries.
            Ethan’s Recovery from Autism: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEw0Y5LJ6vg
            Baxter’s Recovery from Autism: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzQdaHmPh98
            Edward’s Autism Journey: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtHvtWBv7aM

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wemDh08KMcY
            this is a link to the nature of things: autism enigma

        • I took my normal 4-yr old son to get his pre-school vaccine – the “new, improved” acellular Pertussis vaccine. Within a few hours he lost most of his language and was left with permanent brain damage. Vaccine-induced Encephalopathy, per the Neuro Specialist doctor. I wish I could tell you how many times I’ve heard medical professionals treat parents like they are ignorant, misinformed and victims of hysterical Internet rumors. What happened to my son is a fact. He is now 20 and can’t read or write. He is obsessive and violent. He also is 6’6″ and 320 lbs. and our family’s lives are a living hell. Parents are not told of risk factors or even that there is a risk. That is just wrong. And by the way, while I am not a medical professional, I know more about the contents, damage and long-term affects of vaccines than most doctors. Perhaps you should think about your position.

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    • I took the flu shot and ended up in the hospital for 24 days. One year of physical therapy and 4 years to recover from the shot. $350,000 in medical bills the list goes on and on. So a week sick due to the flu doesnt look so bad to me.

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    • It is just the opposite for me. For the last 3 years i did not get the flu shot and did not miss a single day at work due to being sick. In the prior years when I took the shot, I averaged 3-4 days of absence. I know we cannot build a reliable statistical pattern based on 2 cases (yours and mine), and that is the point I am trying to make here. Moreover you cannot be sure if what you had when you got sick was the kind of flu that the vaccine was “designed” to fight.
      I will take flu shot again, when they make a good one. Way too many “maybes” about the current product. It is your health at stake. Recent history of medicine knows many cases, where an FDA approved medication, was later proven to be responsible for severe harm.

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  6. I just wanted to inform you that your source on the first section (about the mercury over 200ppb being toxic) doesn’t work. I don’t know if it’s a broken link, but it would be lovely to see the source. Thank you so much for the article, I think it’s wonderful.

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    • Thank you so much, Jill! It has been fixed.

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  7. My question would be….once you have had a reaction to the flu shot and if it is a reaction to Thimerosal …what can a person do to alleviate the symptoms? Everytime I have gotten a flu shot, my eyes have turned red, swelled, teared, they itched and burned and my sinus’s are also affected. I would be sick like this all winter. I did not get a flu shot last year and it was a much better winter this last year. I don’t plan on getting a shot again because of the severe reaction that I have. I know that they way my eyes and sinus’s feel, I still have effects from the flu shot. How can I get over this?

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    • Connie — We at VaxTruth are not medical professionals, so we would urge you to first speak with your doctor about these symptoms and any supplements I discuss.

      It does sound like you might have had an allergic reaction to at least one ingredient in the flu shot. I would also try speaking with a naturopath regarding your symptoms as there are a lot of natural remedies that could help. There are a couple of natural antihistamines I know of:

      1. Butterbur is a supplement available orally.

      2. Mangosteen is a fruit extract supplement usually sold in juice form or as capsules.

      If you feel comfortable, try one of those and see if it helps alleviate your symptoms, but please, speak with your doctor first and read up on both of them before taking either of them.

      Nature’s Sunshine also has a couple of Vaccine Detox’s: http://www.purenhealthy.com/Nature_s_Sunshine_Vaccination_Detox_p/nat-4617.htm?click=2486 and one called Enviro-detox: http://www.sunshinehealthstore.com/cleansingdetox/enviro-detox-100-caps.htm (shop around though, you might be able to find it even cheaper). Read up on vaccine detoxing. I have heard that it can be great to alleviate the side affects many experience from vaccines.

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    • To Connie that posted in sept. I got the flu shot 2 years ago, within 24 hours began to have sinus issues and eye concerns. I have always had sinus issues but they were controlled for years until that time. Now I visit the ent often. I have refused the flu shot since, the symptoms did get better after two months but I still have sinus and eye concerns that I never had before. Thanks for your post, you are not alone.

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  8. The way I see it – since there is a controversy, the safe thing to do is to stay away from this flu shot until more reliable information becomes avaiblabe.

    I used to get it and when I understood what is really going on with the drug companies and associates who also stand to profit from this, I stopped being injected. I stopped a few years ago and I am not worse off . I am 71.

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  9. Great article! I was just wondering though, where did you get the amount of thimerosal for the “thimerosal free” one? I’m having a heated discussion on this and need some back up!

    Keep up the great work!

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    • This article has a more in-depth explanation of thimerosal in vaccines: http://vaxtruth.org/2011/08/vaccine-ingredients/

      Here is the math:

      0.3 mcg Thimerosal / 0.5mL per vial =
      0.3 mcg / .0005L =
      …3,000 mcg / 5L =
      600 mcg / L
      1 mg/KG = 1 PPM (formal definition of PPM)
      1 L = 1 KG (density of water or saline solution)
      1 mcg/L = 1 PPB (because 1 KG and 1 L of water are equivalent)
      Thimerosal = 50% mercury
      THEREFORE:
      300 mcg / L =
      300 ppb mercury in the “thimerosal-free” vaccine

      You actually have made me aware that I do need to edit my article slightly to say “up to” 600 ppb. The amount of thimerosal ranges from about .15mcg to .3mcg, most are in the range of .25mcg-.29mcg, so technically there are 300-600ppb per vaccine (remember that anything over 200ppb mercury is considered toxic — bring in the Haz-Mat team!).

      Good luck in your debate. ; ) I know how fun those can be… If you need any additional information, feel free to use the “contact us” tab at the top of the page. We generally receive those e-mails faster than we see comments.

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  10. My family has had terrible experiences with the flu vaccine. Is there any way to know What has made a person so sick? Is it the mercury/thimerisol? Is it the virus? Is it the substance that the virus is incubated in? A combination?

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    • You asked the perfect question Lyndi. There are so many different ingredients that are problematic for some people, there is no way to tell exactly what caused the issue. Each person has different vulnerabilities and allergies that it is impossible to find out for sure. Many people complain of feeling sick after the flu shot, and from the evidence that the CDC gives us about how effective it actually is… It’s really not worth the risk for most.

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  11. i was given the trivalent flu shot containing h1n’ the first vaccine and i was in my third trimester of pregnancy. My bub was born with severe nuerological problems, and is undiagnosed as all the tests for metabolic, genetic and chromosomal disorders are all negative. Is it possible to find out if the vaccine was the cause?

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    • Unfortunately, this is a problem most parents face when they suspect vaccinations to have caused an medical problem in their child. The standard medical response is, “If it didn’t happen directly following an immunization, it was not caused by the immunization.” In your case I fear that the problem is even more difficult to trace unless many other children with the same disabilities were found to have mothers who were given the trivalent flu shot in their third trimester. And no one will be willing to study it either… this is the problem we face on all fronts.

      The one size fits all policy does not work for anyone’s benefit.

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  12. Terrible and socially irresponsible article. As a pediatrician, I see so many more children become seriously ill and even die from vaccine preventable illnesses — I have never seen a life-threatening vaccination side-effect by contrast.

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    • This is a very interesting response. I appreciate you taking the time away from your patients to comment here.
      I would love to know more, particularly about the vaccine-preventable illnesses you have personally seen children dying from.
      I would also like to know where these children live and under what conditions, and if they were fully vaccinated when they became ill.

      It is also very interesting that you are a pediatrician and claim to have never seen a life-threatening vaccination side-effect.
      That leads me to believe that you are either (1) a very new pediatrician; (2) you don’t know what to look for; or (3) you refuse to believe the parents who are reporting their children’s reactions are from vaccines.
      I’m sure there are many parents who will be happy to weigh in and share their experiences with serious vaccine reactions that were discounted by their pediatricians.

      If you are interested in having a dialogue about these points, I’d love to hear more.

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    • I find it socially irresponsible for a pediatrician to deny and minimize vaccine risks, and to misrepresent the safety profile of vaccines.

      Thank you, Marcella, for this article.

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    • As a nurse I am very inclined to not get the flu shot. Why not let my body do it’s own work and actually build natural immunity? This shot doesn’t wipe out flu in fact the virus changes often and is mutated by the time 9 months passes and the vaccine is done! And lets not forget that it doesn’t have lasting immunity, if it did why would H1N1 still be in it? (when they scared everyone into getting one already) The fact is that the bacteria, viruses, and other disease causing organisms are mutating at a rate and our immune systems are struggling to keep up. Agriculture is creating MDRO and USDA and FDA don’t do anything about that! Now if it were like the Polio vaccine I may reconsider but until it actually keeps you from getting sick thanks but no thanks. I lost a baby the 1st year when the wonderful CDC told pregnant mamas in the first tri to get flu shots! over 12 weeks pregnant and no history of miscarriage or congenital anomalies in my history with 2 healthy children. The very old, very young, ill and immunocompromised are usually dying from the influenza, but they won’t report who already had preexisting conditions or underlying health problems to begin with. They just spew scare tactics to make Big Pharma richer. Sorry but like I said the polio vaccine I can get a bit excited about it actually prevents Polio. Flu shot pretty shotty work if you ask me. And yes I do tell people with immunocompromised loved ones to get it because if they can save that person from one infection the benefit out weighs the risk. I wish doctors and heath professionals would stop letting the CDC and Big Pharma dictate what they practice. We have never been so unhealthy as a society and spend BILLIONS to be healthy? That is dumb! Whatever we are doing is WRONG.

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    • I wonder what your feelings are on amalgam dental fillings and fluoridated water, Doc.
      My nephew and my grandson both experienced serious reactions to vaccines.
      Everyone seems to know the Hippocratic oath, but do they know it states…

      “I will apply dietetic measures for the benefit of the sick according to my ability and judgment; I will keep them from harm and injustice.

      I will neither give a deadly drug to anybody if asked for it, nor will I make a suggestion to this effect”

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  13. This is just insanity…WHAT are you thinking? your evidence is shoddy, a BRIEF visit to the CDC site will show SEVERAL vaccines that contain NO mercury…Goddess protect your childres…as their parent certainly won’t…done ANT research into WHOOPING COUGH lately?

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    • Thanks, Theo, for your concerns.

      I’m glad you brought up the CDC and vaccines. I did the “brief” search for you and found the CDC’s list of vaccines and ingredients: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table-2.pdf

      As you can see, most vaccines still contain thimerosal (aka… 50% mercury). All of the most popular flu vaccines contain either 25 mcg of thimerosal (labeled simply as Thimerosal with no asterisk), or thimerosal with an asterisk by it which means, in CDC language, “thimerosal-free.” And I touched on how “thimerosal-free” is actually a myth in the article above considering that even vaccines that doctors say have “no mercury” in them still exceed what the EPA considers toxic for mercury exposure.

      I have actually done quite extensive research on whooping cough lately. Again, thank you for bringing up such a great question. Theo, with the research you have done, don’t you find it incredibly interesting that 86% of children that have contracted whooping cough during this “horrible outbreak” have been fully vaccinated against whooping cough? That is definitely something worth talking about. It means that the vaccine for whooping cough is ineffective against preventing it.

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    • HAve to agree with Theo here. I’m sorry with your math and how you like to work the numbers, but like anything you make it to fit your opinion. Any mathmatician will tell you, you can eventually work numbers to make 1=0.

      As for the diseases and the vaccines that prevent them, you clearly have never seen a baby with pertussis end up on a ventilator. Nore have you seen a previously healthy 3 month old get H. Influenza meningitis pass away and the devastation for the family.

      Every parent has the right to decide how to care for their children, but it’s “educated” people that have the freedom of speech and push their opinions as fact that are the scariest source of “info” for parents.

      As a Pediatrician, I would never do anything to harm my children nor your children. I completely agree with immunizing children according to the AAP recommendations. If you disagree, by all means I know most on this site will, and if, god forbid, your child develops viral meningitis due to influenza and secondary pnuemonias requiring vent support realize the pediatricians like myself will still be there to save their life.

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      • I understand your position and I also understand where it comes from. I’m curious to know how many hours of statistics and research you took in medical school. Do you actually look at the clinical studies for vaccines? What’s your take on the widespread use of aluminum (the adjuvent that causes a hyper-immune response) as the “placebo” in clinical trials? Unless experimental design is somehow different for vaccine-manufacturers this violates the basic tenets of good research. By design a placebo must be something that does not cause a physiological change. If you do look at the manufacturer’s inserts and at the actual research studies, it quickly becomes clear that the reason physicians and those within the CDC, AMA and AAP keep telling people vaccines are safe is because there is no significant difference in the number of serious adverse events between the experimental group (the group that got the viral or bacterial antigen + Aluminum) and the “Control/Placebo” Group (the group that got only the aluminum). That’s deceit. It’s clearly trickery with the goal of fooling people (including physicians) into thinking that the vaccines are safe when they are very dangerous and there are no true safety studies.

        That brings me to another issue… You say you “completely agree with immunizing children according to the AAP recommendations.” Why? Are you aware there has never been a single study that even investigates whether or not vaccinating according to the schedule is safe or effective? Vaccines are studied in isolation and occasionally in combinations of two or three. I have not seen a single study that replicates the real-world scenario that happens every day in your office. Don’t you think you owe it to your patients to check? Or do you just follow along and do as you’re told. Could it be that you want to believe The Schedule is safe so you can win one of those coveted Vaccine Champion Awards and the big year-end bonus that comes with it – courtesy of the vaccine manufacturers?

        Can you show me the studies that have been done to investigate whether or not it’s safe to inject aluminum into infants and children? How come IV parenteral solutions are limited to 10 mcg per day for children and 25 mcg per day for adults because if patients get more aluminum their kidneys shut down and they have brain damage? And how come the FDA has set the safety limit of aluminum in IV solutions at 4-5 micrograms per kg of body weight, yet tiny infants, when vaccinated according to “The Schedule” can receive up to 1000+ mcg. of aluminum in a matter of minutes? I would really love to know how this is safe.

        Do you administer antibiotics in your practice? Are you at all concerned about antibiotic resistent bacterial infections like MRSA? Why do bacteria become resistant to antibiotics? Isn’t it because bacteria are very stealty organisms, which have been around since the dawn of time? They’re like the cockroaches of the germ world. They can survive anything! They can even shape-shift from aerobic to anaerobic when they detect an attempt to wipe them out. They can also exchange bits of their DNA with each other and become something totally different. I KNOW that antibiotic-resistence is worrisome to you – isn’t it?

        So if bacteria change so rapidly in response to attempts to eradicate them, how is it you can possibly believe that a vaccine designed to fight a bacterial infection could ever even be effective? It takes years for vaccines to go through the process of R & D, clinical trials, marketing and approval. By the time the vaccine is released on the public, how in the world could it possibly be effective? Isn’t this what we’re seeing now with the pertussis outbreaks? You brought up pertussis and babies on ventilators. The fact is that in each of the recent outbreaks somewhere between 80 and 90 percent of the people whose illness was confirmed by laboratory tests as pertussis were fully vaccinated. The problem is, the bacteria has changed since the vaccine was developed and the strain that is now causing the illness is a different strain. The vaccine is not effective against it, and since vaccines depress the immune system for a period of weeks after administration, when you race around trying to vaccinate everyone in sight during the middle of an outbreak, you are placing those infants and children at higher risk of getting sick with the very thing you are trying to prevent.

        Shall we talk about the terminal complement system and how vaccination at birth and again one and two months later with the hepatitis B vaccine (which is loaded with aluminun) depletes the viral and toxin components of the terminal cascade, leaving infants more prone to bacterial infections such as meningitis?

        And let’s go back to the DTaP vaccine… Isn’t it true that (assuming the vaccine DID work) immunity is not conferred until the series is complete at 18 months of age? So the tiny babies who are getting sick from pertussis would have no expectation of immunity during the first year of life, which is the time when pertussis is most dangerous to them. That being the case, how does it make sense to give them the DTaP vaccine, which has one of the worst track records for infant deaths within 7 days of administration? Isn’t that a whole lot of risk for zero benefit?

        And speaking of a whole lot of risk for zero benefit, how about the fact that hepatitis B is a sexually transmitted disease, and recent studies show that any immunity that is conferred by the hep B series given to infants is GONE in 5-7 years? I don’t know any 5-7 year olds who are having sex or shooting up drugs; do you? Given that another recent study compared the rates of autism for boys that were vaccinated against Hep B with those who were not and the results showed autism at 3x the rate in boys who received hep B vaccine, isn’t it true that this is another vaccine that carries significant risk for zero benefit?

        This is a trust issue. When vaccine manufacturers lie and manipulate study design and results in order to sell products that do not work, and when they lobby legislators to make their products mandatory with no chance for parents to sue when a child dies or is permanently damaged by a vaccine, that is strong-arm tactics for financial gain. Period.

        I want to believe that you would never do anything to harm a child. But the fact is, you are harming children everyday if you are injecting them with vaccines that have not been tested properly, do not work effectively, and are full of heavy metals and other neurotoxins. The only question is whether or not you know what you are doing. If you don’t, you get a pass for now. I hope you will start to actually look into the research – or lack thereof. If you do, and if you really care about your patients, you will come away with a whole new perspective on what you were “taught” in medical school.
        If you already know about the issues I’ve just raised in this comment, then shame on you. You may be able to sleep at night now, but before too long, things are going to catch up with you.
        Please, do your homework and do not buy into the brainwashing for profit. It’s not worth losing your soul for.

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        • ANYONE who is still pro-vaccine has not done their own research and looked into the history of vaccines (the flu vaccine or any of them). If you do you will find 200 years of abysmal results and appallingly bad science. Do some homework. It’s all right here on the Internet. Look at the smallpox rates in England before and after the vaccine was forced on the public in the 1860s (this alone should have been the end of the vaccine hypothesis).

          These pediatricians get on here and use emotional tactics to scare everyone into getting vaccinated (their anecdotal experience is okay, but the parent’s gets dismissed outright?…hmmm).. Jeesh, even using the CDC’s own biased numbers the evidence is pretty obvious, let alone independent research numbers that are so striking even a big pharma brainwashed MD would take notice (but they rarely do…too busy pushing vaccines and drugs probably, which thus just makes them even busier since these things cure absolutely NOTHING…the art of actual ‘healing’ hasn’t been in use by 99% of MDs for decades). The flu vaccine skeptics have won this argument (the 2010 Cochrane study proved the flu vaccine is almost 100% ineffective AND it puts youngsters at triple the risk of being hospitalized). So Big Pharma is responding by having their shills push for mandated vaccines all over the country, starting with healthcare workers. Isn’t it clear? When these vaccine pushing crooks know they have lost the argument, they turn to our endlessly corruptible government (state and federal) and use force to get their way. If the vaccines were oh so wonderful, why on earth would mandates be required? Truth passes through three stages according to philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. The skeptics have endured decades of ridicule, but now the battle will really heat up as we are in the second stage as Big Pharma is making abundantly clear with their use of force and seeing the Constitution go up in flames in the process.

          For those still on the fence, just start to take notice of which side is using logic and good science to back up their claims, and which side is using scare tactics and emotional appeals. And this goes for all the heated health issues these days. Fluoridated water, GMOs, vaccines, sun exposure, supplements, carbs, fats, etc.. Who is doing the real independent science and who is busy labeling dissenters as ‘quacks’ or ‘conspiracy theorists’? Our main compass should be observable and replicable data, and we must follow it regardless of where it points. But we live in an age where dogma has replaced science on just about every health issue there is. And from my experience ‘traditional’ allopathic western medicine has been a failure on a scale that truly boggles the mind (other than life threatening emergency care, it’s sole victory). Health comes from within, from proper genetic replication that results from proper nutrition. Weston A. Price’s ‘Nutrition and Physical Degeneration’ proves this simple truth beyond any doubt. Yet Western medicine has ignored nutrition for nearly a century and Instead they toss endless shots, pills, poisons, chemicals, and surgeries at ailments and all the while people just get sicker and sicker. As if toxin filled vaccines and synthetic drugs (and GMO foods) can somehow work in harmony with DNA that took millions of years evolving with nature to become how it is today. If your doctor just wants to vaccinate you and your kids and push drugs on you and never mentions a word on nutrition, you should fire him or her immediately and find one that does. Things have to change for the better and it is up to us to hold these people accountable for that to happen.

          Sorry for getting off topic on this post but I have found in my years of health studies that the same mindset seems to apply to multiple health issues and why you will see such a striking division of thought between medical practitioners. And it boils down to the folks that seem to ‘get it’ and those that don’t. Personally, I will side with someone like Dr. Mercola who takes an open mind approach and uses the best available data to make recommendations than an army of Big Pharma trained MDs who haven’t glanced at any new research in years or even decades (or just ignore the data!) but yet have a collective mindset that is so patriarchal it borders on the religious. And ultimately, you and your kin are your own best proof. Fine, give your kids 73 CDC recommended vaccines, feed them tons of sugary drinks, rancid fat filled GMO junk food, and antibiotic and hormone filled meats and dairy, drink 8 glasses of fluoridated water a day, give them drugs for every weird condition or unruly behavior that presents, and see how they are faring compared to the native kids Weston A. Price studied for his book. I don’t know how much more obvious it can be.

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        • Oh. My. Goodness.

          Marcella you guys have the patience of saints. It boggles my mind that you manage to sit at your computers, day after day, answering these kinds of comments.

          Please don’t be discouraged, many people are being “unplugged” from this world’s system of mass mind-control after reading your articles.

          Western medicine is a RELIGION, not a science.

          http://www.naturalnews.com/031589_modern_medicine_scientism.html

          Let’s not forget that when we attack someone’s religion by disagreeing with their doctrines, they may well respond with anger and involuntary counter-attacks. It’s normal to feel panic and rage while undergoing deprogramming from brainwashing. The very ground under their feet is being shaken.

          I know from experience that there are 2 things which can heal people from the effects of robotic mind control such as that perpetrated on doctors, nurses and other health professionals, and which they pass on to their patients and associates. Those 2 things are knowledge and love. All the factual information in the world can’t get through unless we validate the victim’s fears and show them a lot of mercy during the awful process of shattering their programming and removing everything that gave them status, power, confidence and purpose before. It’s a very hard thing to go through and I commend you for your good attitude toward the occasional lost sheep that strays onto your site to express their strong emotions. They always lose the fight between reality and fantasy, but thank you for letting them down easy and allowing them to lose graciously and go away and arm themselves with knowledge.

          May the true God bless you, and may He help us all.

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          • It’s not just vaccines that the CDC and others manipulate their research on, it’s also the sex ed industry/HIV epidemic. Knowing the half-truths spouted there, I’m more inclined to believe this site than the CDC, WHO, cancer organizations etc. They have the blood of millions on their hands.

      • More snarky comments from the Gods of Pediatric care. Speaking as an all-knowing deity, and refusing to believe that perhaps the treatment is far worse than the disease.
        I doubt seriously that you, with the incredible schooling you have put yourself thru, have bothered to question even a little of the gargantuan body of work that says maybe, just MAYBE, pumping human beings full of vaccines, keeping them on a steady diet of mood-altering and brain-altering SSRI’s, and giving them cholesterol-lowering meds that leave their hearts depleted of CoQ10 (which helps oxygenate the heart) is the furthest thing from true heath.

        “Let food be thy medicine, and medicine be thy food.”

        You white coats are all the same. Arrogant, inflexible, and self-deluded in your own laboratory-assisted sorcery.

        It is just tragic that logic, reason and good common sense towards heath (inner and outer) is so buried in the search for profit.

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        • WELL SAID!!!!

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  14. Thank-you for this article. Sorry for all the narrow minded negative comments. You handled them well. I found it interesting that You mentioned that the flu vaccine is deemed to wear off but yet it is made the same way as other vaccines but yet the others do not require annual boosters. Although I have read that after receiving such vaccines like MMR that the titers for immunity wear off drastically.
    As for the doctor who has never seen adverse reactions to the flu shot what a misleading statement. 1 the government has paid milliions of dollars to people who have had adverse reaction from vaccine. 2) look at the adverse vaccine reaction website many there would give another story. 3) I have a friend who’s daughter DIED from complications from vaccine and now on his Facebook has o er 700 parents who would be more then happy to disagree with you. 3) my own two children 1 who started having seizures, severe diarrhea and unstoppable crying following his 6 month round and my other son who following his shots ran a high fever, started wheezing and needed breathing treatments. And developed a very big the size if three quarters big red, raised, hot welt on his leg that he screamed and whinged everytime You touched it. As a doctor You have an obligation to check both sides of the fence and know that a one size fits all approach to treatment is not best ethical practice. Don’t be blinded by the monetary kick backs You get from the drug company. I have had a doctor tell me that by not staying on the CDC schedule I’m ruining their numbers and the monetary kick back he receives by keeping all the patients on the CDC recommended vaccine schedule. I don’t know if this is true for all docs but this doc is my friend and I belivev what he says although I’m sure most docs wouldn’t say that directly to any of their patients.
    Vitamin D is more effective research it.

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  15. Excellent article.
    The title stating that doctors probably don’t know about the flu vaccine is relevant because many doctors don’t know much about any vaccines!

    Unfortunately medical students normally study about vaccines for only a few hours, (in NSW Australia half a day is spent during eight years at university) – and qualified doctors often don’t take the time to even read through package inserts.

    In comparison it is often the case that vaccine critics have spent hundreds of hours, even many years studying vaccines and know far more than the average doctor.

    We are many who are frustrated, unimpressed and tired of trying to ask about and discuss with doctors about vaccine ingredients, safety statistics, potential long term adverse events including carcinogenicty, synergy, interactions, secondary transmission, concomitant administration, etc.

    It is often blatantly obvious that the average doctor has minimal knowledge about the complex issue of vaccination.

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  16. I posted this article/link on my friend’s fb wall, and this was his reply. I’d love some feedback on his response. Thanks !

    “Okay, but understand, I only pick this apart because skepticism and scientific knowledge are vital to understanding what’s going on here. I promise I’m not trying to be contrary — these are simply facts, and the article gets a few things …dead wrong or simply inaccurate.
    1. and 2. Both of these arguments are invalid, simply because the author doesn’t make a distinction between ethylmercury and methylmercury. Methylmercury is the most dangerous compound, and something we have extensive studies on. Ethylmercury, the prime component of thimerosal, has been shown to be eliminated rapidly from the body without ill effect — infants, in fact, eliminate it FASTER than adults. And thimerosal has been used in vaccines since the 1930s with no epidemiological studies showing an ill effect, period.
    3. The author is correct. Gastroenteritis and influenza are different diseases with different causative agents, although it really doesn’t have any bearing on the argument against vaccine use — influenza is nasty and can in fact kill you. I ended up in the ER myself with H1N1 (swine) flu back in January 2010, and I’m a healthy man in my late 20s.
    4. Vaccines do not weaken the immune system. They stimulate an immune response, which sometimes causes an illness-like reaction (fever, etc). People don’t realize that this is generally much less severe than what you’d get from the disease itself, and anyway, the immune response is actually responsible for symptoms like runny noses and fever — your body does that to react to the invading pathogen. But most people don’t even experience this reaction, and it’s not detrimental to your health at all.
    5. The amount of deaths from influenza have risen slightly in the last ten years. This has a lot to do with a quack named Andrew Wakefield who pioneered this anti-vaccine nonsense with his fraudulent research paper published in 1998. More people are refusing the vaccine than ever before — leading the CDC to recommend it to more and more people because of the alarming number of people who listened to a quack.
    The rest of the argument presented is a misinterpretation of the statistics regarding pneumonia and a lack of understanding of how flu can cause it. Think of it this way: People don’t die from car accidents throwing them through a windshield — it’s the sudden abrupt stop that kills them. Flu doesn’t kill as often as you think, but it causes a condition that does — pneumonia.
    And what about vitamin D? It has been shown to help with people with osteoporosis, but not much else. Dietary supplements of vitamin D have, quite simply, not been shown to affect much else but bone density. As far as the ridiculous assertion that chiropractors were better than doctors during the 1918 Spanish flu outbreak, remember that CHIROPRACTORS ARE NOT DOCTORS and have no medical basis for any of their claims. (The “source” of the claims, by the way, are two chiropractic websites — hardly a reputable source for the efficacy of chiropractic, which is as ineffective as homeopathic drugs and using crystals and magnets to heal ailments.)
    Responsible decision-making requires careful examination of evidence. Vaccines do save lives, and they are nothing to fear if you understand the basic principles and the fact that thimerosal has never been shown by any scientific study to cause harm — ever.”

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    • Miranda –

      Thank you for your comment, and I’m so glad you contacted us so that you can respond to your friend. :) If I were responding to this person, this would be my response:

      1.and 2. – There are actually hundreds of studies that indicate and explain the danger from ethylmercury exposure via injection route. I will highlight just a few.

      The Vaccine Establishment’s SAFETY Debate: Use of Thimerosal in vaccines Versus the admittedly dangerous use of methylmercury is a grouping of studies. These studies, as brought to light by Dr. King, establish that ethylmercury (Thimerosal), a “supposedly harmless” compound of mercury according to the vaccine establishment, is converted in the rat and apparently in the human infant into “methylmercury” which, the establishment admits is a harmful form of mercury.

      Several pages of the paper examine the toxicity of methylmercury and its past use as a fungicide. We are led to believe that this form of mercury is much different than ethylmercury, the type found in vaccines. This is in spite of the fact that ethylmercury was used for the same purpose. In fact, Ethylmercurric Chloride, the material used as a fungicide (which was banned long ago) is what is used to make thimerosal. This can be easily confirmed by looking in a Merck Index. We now know that this type of mercury deposits twice as much inorganic mercury in the brains of primates as compared to equal doses of methylmercury. Inorganic mercury, following the de-methylation of organic mercury, has been identified as the primary neurotoxic agent in primate studies. (please see: Burbacher T, Shen D, Liberato N, Grant K, Cernichiari E, Clarkson T. 2005. Comparison of blood and brain mercury levels in infant monkeys exposed to methylmercury or vaccines containing thimerosal. Environmental Health Perspectives. 113:1015-1021. LES INCOMPETANTS: OPEN LETTER TO THE AAP By K. Paul Stoller, M.D.)

      Health officials often claim that ethylmercury—the type of mercury found in vaccines containing thimerosal—should not be compared to methylmercury, a well-established neurotoxin. However, a Russian study found that adults exposed to much lower concentrations of ethylmercury than those given to American children still suffered brain damage years later. In 1985, the Archives of Toxicology published a comparative study that administered similar doses of ethylmercury and methylmercury to rats. The ethylmercury-treated rats had higher amounts of inorganic mercury in their kidneys and brains.91 In August 2005, a study funded by the National Institutes of Health also found that ethylmercury is more toxic to the brain than methylmercury. It crosses the blood-brain barrier quicker and converts to inorganic mercury—which is more difficult to excrete and stays in the brain longer—at much higher levels.

      Bottom line: ethylmercury is incredibly dangerous to the brain. A great case for this is the fact that the CDC saw fit to “remove” it from vaccines. It’s clearly toxic and there are far too many studies that prove this.

      3. This point was not brought up for an argument against vaccine use. It was simply to dispel a common misconception.

      4. The CDC clearly indicates in multiple places that for approximately 2 weeks following vaccination the immune system is weakened, which is how it is more probable that you would catch a virus during the days following vaccination. In infants and babies, this weakening of immune system can last longer than 2 weeks. There are several studies that indicate this. Just as an example, there was a study carried out in Israel in 1988 and published in the Clinical Pediatrics. The theory was that if there was a weakening of the immune system, there would be a higher instance of illness following vaccination. In this study, the incidence of acute illnesses in the 30-day period following vaccination was compared to the incidence in the same children for the 30-day period prior to vaccine. The three-day period immediately following vaccine was excluded because children frequently develop fever as a direct response to vaccine ingredients. A total of 82 healthy infants were immunized, and their symptoms were reported by parents and observed by a pediatrician at weekly intervals. Those babies experienced a dramatic increase in fever, diarrhea, and cough in the month following vaccination compared to their health before the shot.

      5. Immunization for influenza has always been somewhat low since it’s creation. Prior to 2002, it had always been the “Meh” vaccination. As in “Meh, I’ll chance it. No biggy.” In 2002 there was a drastic increase in the number of flu cases which is in direct line with the CDC recommendation that the flu vaccine was deemed “safe” for children under 5. More parents and adults began receiving vaccination. This could partly be because they received it at the same time as their child since the new recommendation allowed their younger child to get it, or perhaps since the CDC removed it’s limitations on this vaccine, more people believed it was safe. The flu vaccine has always had a poor track record and the highest amount of complaints for “flu-like” symptoms following vaccination. There is a high number of reports throughout the decades of people feeling like “crud” after it. This is in no way a coincidence. The increase in cases of flu has absolutely nothing to do with who you call a “quack” that’s convincing parents to not vaccinate, considering that more people have been receiving the flu vaccines, not less. I will leave that comment at that because the argument for Andrew Wakefield is a whole different ball game. I would, however, love to discuss it with you. It’s quite an interesting one.

      Lumping pneumonia and flu deaths together as a way to connect statistical data for flu is extremely misleading. There are hundreds and hundreds of different kinds of viruses, bacteria, and health conditions that cause pneumonia, and yet those deaths are lumped into the influenza. There have been many people that have died from asthmatic episodes, who had no record of having any symptoms pertaining to the flu, and they were not tested for influenza, but died from pneumonia and were lumped in with the number of “flu” deaths. There is no way on this earth that you can say it’s an adequate way to tally the number of deaths in relation to influenza.

      As for Vitamin D – apparently the University of Cambridge Medical Journals and The Journal of Pediatric, Maternal & Family Health who both confirm the validity of the history of chiropractors during the Spanish Flu outbreak are not good sources? There are several other reputable sources that also confirm this information.

      If you believe that Vitamin D is only useful for osteoporosis, then you have not researched it. At all. Not only is it incredibly adequate for virus prevention, it’s also good for treating depression, hypothyroidism, psoriasis, and a myriad of other things. To say it’s only good for osteoporosis is almost laughable. Even mainstream medical doctors would laugh at that assumption. Not only are there thousands of doctor’s that will confirm Vitamin D’s flu prevention, but it also makes it appearance on shows like Doctor Oz, Dr. Drew, etc. It is becoming more well-known, and is extremely mainstream.

      By saying that thimerosal has never been shown to cause harm, apparently you are not aware of the new information that unearthed just last year about the CDC, Denmark, and thimerosal? Denmark removed thimerosal from their vaccines in the early 90s. Their autism rate *drastically* reduced afterwards. The United States learned of this and falsified information to make it appear as if it had been an increase, and then that was printed in the Pediatric Journal. Not only did they know about the decrease, but they made it look as though there was an increase. Even so, they “removed” thimerosal from vaccines in the early 2000s despite the fact they said that this would “increase autism.” Clearly that doesn’t make sense, right? And then it’s no surprise that we find out the leading Scientist in the Danish study was embezzling research money and didn’t actually use that huge amount of money to research if there was a correlation between autism and the MMR. Sad story.

      Keep up with the research. It’ll do ya some good. ;)

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  17. I do not have a medical background, nor do I have a lot of technical knowledge regarding the chemistry of vaccines. I do, however, have a real life experience to share. My wife experienced a reaction to the 2010 flu vaccine. Within 5 days of receiving the vaccine she was in a comma and remained in a comma for 25 days. After coming out of the comma, she went through extensive rehab, learning how to eat, talk, walk and write. Fortunately for her, me, and our 4 children, she has exprienced a nearly full recovery.

    During her ordeal, numerous medical professionals asked me about my wife’s health and circumstances leading up to her illness:
    Was she healthy? yes, extremely; worked out everyday
    Was she bitten by a dog? No
    Was she scratched by a cat? No
    Did she get tick bite? No
    Did she get a mosquito bite? No (it was late October in Chicago)
    Did she come in contact with rat feces? No

    The only thing that happened to my wife is that she had received a flu vaccine. The attending doctors at a prestigious hospital did not want to even think that my wife’s condition was caused by the flu vaccine. I was told that such severe reactions to flu vaccines are extremely rare.

    Everytime I brought up a potential link between the flu vaccine and my wife’s condition, the doctors became defensive. Why? They did not administer the vaccine. The hospital we were at had nothing to do with the vaccine my wife received. All I wanted was for the doctors to be obejective and open to all possibilities. If there could have been a link to a dog bite (which she did not receive), why not a link between the flu shot, which she did receive?

    Finally, after my wife had been in a coma for over 3 weeks, after I continued to harp on a potential link between my wife’s condition and the flu vaccing, and getting negative test results from dozens of blood and spinal fluid tests,the neurologists acknowledged a probable link between the flu vaccine and my wife’s condition. The attending neuroligist told me “we now believe your wife has been experiencing at least one severe autoimmune system reaction to the flu vaccine. We are going to begin treating her immediately with plasmapharesis.” He then added, “for the past 3 weeks, your wife’s immune system has been attacking her brain.” The plasmahparesis treatments, 5 in all, were successful. After the first treatment, my wife began coming out of the coma. After the 5th treatment, she was able to begin her rehab.

    Upon review of my wife’s medical records, roughly 15 highly qualified neurologists who were involved in my wife’s case agreed that based on all of the facts, the only logical conclusion was that my wife’s condition was caused by the flu vaccine.

    I am greatful for my wife’s nearly full recovery, but I am left with a number of major concerns:

    Why were the doctors defensive and not objective when it came to the linkage between the flu vaccine and my wife’s condition? Medical professionsals should be objective an open-minded to all potential causes of an illness.

    Why is it that promotors of flu vaccines are not required to disclose the potential for neurological side effects to the vaccine in the “releases” signed by patients? Flu vaccines have been known for years to cause Guillain-Barre and other neurological conditions.

    Why is it that the CDC’s database for reported adverse reactions to vaccines is maintained on an EXCEL based system for hundreds of thousands of entries and is not maintained with “real time” data? When I went into that data base in mid-November, 2010 to see if there had been other cases similar to my wife’s reported, the data was effective through September 22 – before the flu season had even started. For my situation, and for anyone receiving the flu vaccine in the Fall of 2010, the data-base was totally ineffective. And the CDC is here to protect us?

    What is the basis for medical professionals to tell me that severe reactions to the flu vaccine, such as what my wife experienced, are 1 in 1 million? Drs. mention this to us regularly, but I have never seen a formal study. Even if I did see a study, I would question the reliability of the data because, based on my experience, the medical community did almost everything it could to prove the my wife’s condition was not caused by the flu vaccine. I know a number of people who have experienced material neurological side effects from the flu vaccine, but they have been so brow-beaten by their doctors into believing that they are 1 in a million, almost a freak, that they are almost afraid to mention it.

    I welcome any comments, and any advise on how my wife and I, and our 4 children, can effectively get our story told so that Americans can at least hear the other side of the flu vaccine story and then make an informed decision about whether or not to get the flu vaccine.

    Bob

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    • I wish you luck Bob. but I have not been able to get one media outlet to cover my flu shot case. Even after the vaccine court conceded my case and ruled that all of my health damage was caused by the shot, no one would report on it. I hope you wife is recovering. I recovered with holistic care.

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  19. Megan,

    Can you post some more information about the danish study? I don’t know if you’ve posted an entry about it or not, but this is the first I’ve hear about it and would like to know more.

    Also, on a more pressing topic, I work at a pharmacy that is about to start offering flu shots for this year. What should I say to my supervisors if they notice that I’m not asking my patients if they’d like to receive the vaccine? I’m not a pharmacist, so I don’t have to worry about actually refusing to give the shot, but the management at my store is really pushing high flu shot sales this year. Please respond via email if you’d like more information that what I’ve posted here.

    A.

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    • A. ~

      Thank-you for your response and questions. To do a little more reading about Dr. Thorsen and “The Danish Study,” see here:

      http://www.ageofautism.com/2011/04/danish-study-cdc-doctor-who-debunked-autism-vaccines-link-indicted-on-fraud.html

      http://www.whale.to/vaccine/first_fraud.html

      As for the second part of your question – In my opinion, your supervisors will probably not respond well to any refusal to sell a product that brings in a good amount of money for them. I think, if you’re approached with this topic, the best way to go is to be candid and firm, but in the nicest way possible. Tell them you have some serious health concerns about the flu vaccine. Tell them you’re uncomfortable with many of the ingredients, especially the flu shot with 25mcg of mercury in it, which is the vaccine that is given to the vast majority of recipients. Mercury is a dangerous neurotoxin that the CDC saw fit to try and remove from vaccines due to it’s neurotoxicity and dangerous side effects. You can also bring up the fact that the flu season following the CDCs recommendation in 2002 that flu vaccines were safe and recommended for children under 5, that there was a 427% increase in flu related deaths that year.

      Write up your top 3 or 4 objections, memorize them, and be prepared to deliver. Good luck, and I would love to hear an update if there is ever a confrontation. I hope it is in your favor, and that it goes smoothly. I would, however, recommend that if your supervisors don’t ever bring it up with you, it is probably in your best interest to not come forward with your opinion.

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  20. I would just like to take a brief moment to thank the folks here at VaxTruth for putting out this information and especially to respond to each question and reply! I am sure that takes even more time than writing the original article itself! I am constantly trying to warn people of the dangers of vaccines and really appreciate being able to share reliable information!

    If only we had known then what we know now- our son would not have to suffer with a severe hearing loss caused by his 2 year vaccinations.

    Keep up the good work! It will make a difference!

    S Tucker

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    • Shawn: Thank-you for commenting. It means a lot to us to know that what we do is helping.
      Blessings to you and to your precious son.
      Marcella

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  21. IMPORTANT! REGARDING THE BASIS THAT ADVERSE EVENTS ARE FOR EXAMPLE “RARE” OR “ONE IN A MILLION”:
    I (Sandy Lunoe) queried this and received this comment with an excellent explanation from Dr. Lawrence B Palevsky: Comments on Guillain-Barré Syndrome After Vaccination.

    In response to Sandy L
    “It is often stated that there is normally no higher number of GBS after vaccination than is found in the population as a whole,” this statement is more than dubious. We are told that vaccine safety studies are designed to evaluate whether or not vaccines contribute to the development of adverse events. When authorities accumulate data in a cohort of people who are given a vaccine or a group of vaccines, they closely monitor them for a period of time to observe any symptoms of illness, usually 2-4 weeks. They then compare the incidence of any reported symptoms in the vaccine study group to the incidence of the reporting of these symptoms in the general population. The incidence of symptoms in the general population is normally referred to as the background rate.

    In every vaccine study performed in this way by the vaccine manufacturers, they have come to conclude through their statistical analyses, that the symptoms reported in the study group after vaccination are no higher in incidence than the rate at which these symptoms would occur in the general population. Therefore, they conclude, the onset of these symptoms in the vaccinated study group is not necessarily due to an adverse reaction to the vaccination(s) being studied. In other words, the symptoms in the vaccinated group were most likely to have occurred by chance, unrelated to the effects of the vaccines. The next step in the process is to then conclude that the vaccine(s) being studied is(are) safe.

    Here’s the problem. The vaccine manufacturers are using background data from the general population; a population that is also vaccinated. In this type of study design, the investigators are studying a group of vaccinated people and comparing the data to a background population of people just like them, who are also vaccinated. We can’t conclude anything about the vaccinated population in this type of study design because the data are being compared to themselves, and not to a set of data from a proper unvaccinated control group. Yet, this is the main type of study design that is used to evaluate vaccine safety.

    In order to do a proper study, investigators would need to accumulate data in a cohort of people who are given a vaccine or a group of vaccines, by monitoring them for a period of time to observe any symptoms of illness, and comparing the incidence of the reported symptoms in the study group to the incidence of these symptoms that are reported in a cohort of people who are demographically similar, and who are unvaccinated. This is the type of study that would help us to understand the frequency and severity of adverse reactions that could possibly occur in a vaccinated population.

    This type of study, however, has never been done by the vaccine manufacturers. Many attempts to set up this type of scientific study have been thwarted by the courts, the vaccine manufacturers, medical organizations, and the ideology that vaccines are nothing other than safe and effective, and appropriately studied with the highest of scientific standards.

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  23. I just wanted to add that I had pneumonia in January 2012. I thought for sure I had the flu. I never get a flu shot. The “flu” really sucked BIG TIME. I had never felt so ill in my life. I had every classic symptom. Once the “flu” symptoms subsided and I started to feel better (about 4-5 days after the first sick day), I had a lingering cough. Was told it was bronchitis and that I couldn’t possibly have the flu, because the flu season hadn’t started yet. This was by a very professional medical group in my area. I was thinking, if they don’t test me how do they know it’s not the flu? Started an antibiotic for the bronchitis. Cough worsened over the next week. Went back to the same clinic where they discovered my oxygen level dipping into the 80% range. Did a chest xray and discovered double pneumonia. Immediate trip to ER, admitted to the hospital for 2 days on super antibiotics through IV as well as fluids and breathing treatments. Blood work at the hospital, however, revealed that the clinic WAS right. I did NOT have the flu. I had a strain of bacteria called Mycoplasma IGM that caused my case of pneumonia. Mycoplasma causes flu-like symptoms. I know there are many other viruses and bacteria that can cause flu-like symptoms as well. I am one of those cases that could have easily been lumped under flu causing pneumonia, even though I didn’t die from it, but if they don’t test and just assume, then lots of people could be diagnosed with flu each year and not really have the flu. I was offered a pneumonia vaccine (and flu vaccine) upon release at the hospital. I looked at the nurse like she was crazy. You are NEVER supposed to vaccinate an ill person. And why vaccinate someone for something they already have (pneumonia)? I am an otherwise healthy 32 year old female. I believe my immune system was compromised due to having recently had a baby in August the year before, and was still breastfeeding him exclusively (he was 5 months old at the time). I also think breastfeeding him is what protected him from getting the illness. He has been so healthy his whole first year of life. Once I learned that breast milk works better than any vaccine any day I made an effort to breast feed him, and still do breastfeed him today, even though it’s not exclusive. I just wanted to share my story on here in hopes that maybe people will realize that flu shots won’t always protect you from illness. Had I received a flu shot shortly before I contracted the mycoplasma I worry that I really possibly could have died from my immune system being even weaker from the shot. That’s too scary for me to risk again. No flu shots for me OR my family. EVER! I can still say to this day that I am 32 years old, have never had the flu, or a flu shot. :-) I do, however, take 10,000 IUs of vitamin d each day as recommended by my very smart, wise doctor. My child’s pediatrician also does not recommend vaccination. I am lucky to have doctors who have done research into these areas and agree with my parenting decisions.

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  24. Yes, flu’s suck. But guess what? We’re supposed to get sick. The body is designed to get sick, and in a healthy body, the immune system does it’s job to make you better. Why on earth would anyone want to contaminate their bodies and compromise their immune systems by loading it with these dangerous toxins? It is absurd. I’m just stunned that there are so many sheep out there. Big pharma is getting exactly what they want; billions of dollars and millions of chronically ill people that they can make even more money from as a result of this toxic overload. Wake up people!

    Thank you for this article. I just hope people open their eyes before it’s too late.

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  25. My husband had his first and only flu shot on December 22, 2010. The next day changed our lives forever. My husband fell down and passed out at work on Dec 23 and was rushed to the ER. He had a bad headache and was diagnosed with vertigo. Because the headache would not subside, the doctor did a cat scan and then an MRI. It was discovered that my husband had lesions on his brain and he was diagnosed with probably Multiple Sclerosis. After some testing, his diagnosis was confirmed. He laid on the couch for 4 weeks with a headache that no medicine could touch. We spent Christmas Eve at the Immediate Care Center getting him IV Infusion therapy for his headaches. It was the only thing that helped. I am not saying that the flu shot caused his MS, but it certainly brought it out with a vengeance. His life has not been the same since. He has now had episodes where his legs do not work. He is only 34 years old so this is more than difficult for him to handle. Thank you flu shot. My husband always cracks the joke, “At least I didn’t vomit that year!” Our family has received their last flu shots!

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  26. I just got the “thimerosal-free” flu shot today, and after reading this article and all the comments tonight, I won’t be getting it again. Wish I’d read this before my doctor’s appointment!

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  27. Not into the flu shot, for myself or my kids, but this article is a bit misleading with its statistics. For instance, the portion about chiropractors and death rates. My guess is that those who were physically able to get to a chiropractor, and had a good support system (family) were general less sick as those who were in the hospital. Let’s face it. If you are in a hospital with the flu, you are really sick! That is why the death rate is higher, those people were too sick to get to the chiropractor.

    “During the Spanish Influenza outbreak in 1918 in Davenport, Iowa, 50 medical doctors cared for 4,953 cases of the Spanish flu, and 274 of their patients died. In the same city, 150 chiropractic doctors, including students and faculty of the Palmer School of Chiropractic, treated 1,635 Spanish Flu patients where only 1 patient died.

    Outside Davenport, chiropractors in Iowa cared for 4,735 Spanish Flu sufferers with only six deaths – one out of 866. In Oklahoma, out of 3,490 flu patients receiving the benefits of chiropractic care, only seven people died.

    National figures for the United States show that 1,142 chiropractic doctors treated a total of 46,394 flu patients during the 1918 Spanish Flu outbreak, with a mortality rate of only 54 patients – one out of every 859, or less than 0.12 percent.”

    Show me the stats about those who went to the chiropractor, and how sick they actually were. Could you compare with those that were in the hospital?

    Just some food for thought.

    KB

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    • Thanks, Keri. You bring up a point that is definitely worth talking about. However, we’re talking 1918. Most influenza patients weren’t treated in hospitals, they were treated at home. During this ravaging period, and because of the sheer number of cases, hospitals could only hold a couple hundred people. We have numbers leaking into the thousands, which clearly indicate that these patients were not hospitalized, or at least the vast majority of them were not. Thanks for your question!

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  28. This is a great article and kudos to those that run this,site. My daughter had a vaccine reaction and so I have become well verrsed in vaccines, reactions, the FDA, CDC, AAP, VICP, and VAERS. MY own indipendent research correlates with that this site states. They are correct. Kudos to them for replying to each poster with facts. I noticed that they never respond!

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  29. I also work in a pharmacy that does immunizations. Of course the corporate people really push the flu shot ($$$$). Just so you know: pharmacies, as a rule do not carry the “preservative free ” version of the flu shot, because it costs more. Our pharmacy, because our pharmacists are very concerned about the additives in the vaccine, has been carrying the preservative free version, but we are running out and the preservative free will no longer be available this year. So, if you are getting a flu shot this year, at least in the western U.S., count on a hefty dose of mercury with your vaccine.

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  30. annieostgarden15@hotmail.com, after a recent debate with a friend, she showed me that on the fda’s website, they state that there is only 1mcg of mercury in the “thimerisol free*” shot. Also, they say it contains “ethyl mercury” which supposedly has a different effect than regular mercury, which isnt as detrimental. Is this possible because more recent changes have been made to the vaccine? Do you have any info on this “ethyl mercury”? Thanks!

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    • “We find that ethylmercury not only inhibits mitochondrial respiration leading to a drop in the steady state membrane potential, but also concurrent with these phenomena increases the formation of superoxide, hydrogen peroxide, and Fenton/Haber-Weiss generated hydroxyl radical. These oxidants increase the levels of cellular aldehyde/ketones. Additionally, we find a five-fold increase in the levels of oxidant damaged mitochondrial DNA bases and increases in the levels of mtDNA nicks and blunt-ended breaks. Highly damaged mitochondria are characterized by having very low membrane potentials, increased superoxide/hydrogen peroxide production, and extensively damaged mtDNA and proteins. These mitochondria appear to have undergone a permeability transition, an observation supported by the five-fold increase in Caspase-3 activity observed after Thimerosal treatment.”

      http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3395253/

      As many studies have shown, mitochondrial disorders can lead to autism and other disorders. Ethyl mercury is just as dangerous as methyl mercury. In a study from 1985 (Magos et al), adult male and female rats were administered the same concentration of ethyl and methyl mercury (not both to the same rat, only one kind to each rat). They found that neurotoxicities of methyl and ethyl merucry were similar although HIGHER levels of inorganic mercury were seen in the BRAINS of ethylmercury treated rats. Renal damage was also much more significant in ethylmercury treated rats.

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    • And more:

      The Vaccine Establishment’s SAFETY Debate: Use of Thimerosal in vaccines Versus the admittedly dangerous use of methylmercury is a grouping of studies. These studies, as brought to light by Dr. King, establish that ethylmercury (Thimerosal), a “supposedly harmless” compound of mercury according to the vaccine establishment, is converted in the rat and apparently in the human infant into “methylmercury” which, the establishment admits is a harmful form of mercury.

      Several pages of the paper examine the toxicity of methylmercury and its past use as a fungicide. We are led to believe that this form of mercury is much different than ethylmercury, the type found in vaccines. This is in spite of the fact that ethylmercury was used for the same purpose. In fact, Ethylmercurric Chloride, the material used as a fungicide (which was banned long ago) is what is used to make thimerosal. This can be easily confirmed by looking in a Merck Index. We now know that this type of mercury deposits twice as much inorganic mercury in the brains of primates as compared to equal doses of methylmercury. Inorganic mercury, following the de-methylation of organic mercury, has been identified as the primary neurotoxic agent in primate studies. (please see: Burbacher T, Shen D, Liberato N, Grant K, Cernichiari E, Clarkson T. 2005. Comparison of blood and brain mercury levels in infant monkeys exposed to methylmercury or vaccines containing thimerosal. Environmental Health Perspectives. 113:1015-1021. LES INCOMPETANTS: OPEN LETTER TO THE AAP By K. Paul Stoller, M.D.)

      Health officials often claim that ethylmercury—the type of mercury found in vaccines containing thimerosal—should not be compared to methylmercury, a well-established neurotoxin. However, a Russian study found that adults exposed to much lower concentrations of ethylmercury than those given to American children still suffered brain damage years later. In August 2005, a study funded by the National Institutes of Health also found that ethylmercury is more toxic to the brain than methylmercury. It crosses the blood-brain barrier quicker and converts to inorganic mercury—which is more difficult to excrete and stays in the brain longer—at much higher levels.

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  31. ALL you people who say you’re going to get the flu shot so you don’t get the flu—I suppose you don’t give a flip about brain damage from mercury? That could very well explain your reasoning. You are working with a damaged brain.

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  32. Good argument fodder. Not that anyone will be swayed from their current beliefs. I used to get the flu shot yearly, promptly followed by the flu within a few weeks most years. Once they rushed to do something for H1N1 and I heard all the stories of including components that were developed before anyone every heard of H1N1, I decided to wait (to see what was true and what wasn’t). I haven’t had the flu shot since. Nor have I had the flu. I’m satisfied.

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  33. I am 67 years old, have never had a flu shot, and have never suffered any flu symptoms that I am aware of. I take a lot of vitamins, including a daily dose of 4000 ius of D3. I have no doubt that we accidentally get some heavy metal toxicity by just living in our polluted environment. It therefore seems just plain stupid to purposely have it injected into ;your blood stream every year, especially when the facts prove that the vaccine, if taken year in and year out, actually impairs your body’s natural immunity to disease.

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  34. Oh I am thrilled to have found this article! I don’t get my kids vaccinated, nor do any of us get the flu shot. This article explains things so thoroughly and clearly. Thank you! I have a sister-in-law that would argue until she’s blue in the face about the benefits and safety of vaccines. I now have even more reason/explanation as to the dangers of them. I also am going to do more research because this article has made me think even more! Thank you again!

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  35. I got a flu shot the other day for the first time and I’m very scared now will the poisons ever leave my system?

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  36. I’m glad I found this website! Thank you for putting this information out there for people to read and help them make better decisions about their health. I have never gotten a flu shot nor have I been traditionally vaccinated, and I take several natural supplements to keep my immune system healthy and it works, every year. I think the whole flu shot, vaccine industry is sinister and an attempt at population control if you ask me..but we won’t get into conspiracy theory ;) It’s sad that medical professionals are somewhat brain washed into thinking that these vaccines are good for young infants and chastising parents for taking other routes in protecting their children. Soon to be a new mom, I worry constantly about what I’m gonna have to deal with when I refuse vaccines for my child and if the military medical world will make everything difficult for me. But knowing I’m not the only one out there that goes against the grain gives peace of mind. Thanks again for this website, a great resource!!

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  37. I wish I found this site two days ago! My husband and I got the flu vaccine the other day. :( We don’t normally get it, and being an RN I’ve been somewhat torn about it. In fact, we haven’t had one for three years until this time, due to the doubts about the freshly minted swine flu vaccine. But this year, I decided that we had to due to the flu epidemic in a nearby Boston and the fact that we are going on a cruise at the end of February.

    But this morning I began researching about the vaccine before taking my 9-year old to get hers (who was sick with a cold on the day I went to our pharmacy to get my shot, thus escaping her dose). Well, praise God at least we didn’t subject her to this junk again! She’s had the flu vaccine twice in the past.

    I almost died twice as a child from two different vaccines – one was the old DTP, which caused anaphylactic shock and pre-comatose condition for me at the age of five. Due to this personal history, I delay the absolute majority of childhood vaccines, and skip some of them altogether for both of my children. But for some reason I have never looked at the flu shot this closely before. I am now so happy our 3-year old has never had a flu shot!

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  38. I did not read all of the articles on the flu shots but will share what happened to me. As a massage therapist at a resort, we were told that it would be in our best interest to get the flu shot, so I did. For the next four months I worked five days a week, never calling in sick but I could hardly make myself put one foot in front of each other. Every muscle and joint in my body hurt!! Then the following year had a stent put in my right cornary artery. When I went to my famliy doctor in the fall, his nurse said that due to having the stent put in, my health was not in the best of shape and that I could get the flu and that I absolutely needed the shot. I thought back to the previous year about how tired and how much pain I was in for 4 months but thought “She’s a nurse and she knows her business”. So I had the shot and was again the same as the year before. As it turns out, I am highly allergeic to mercury!!! So no more shots for me–that was 2006–have never had the flu. I take care to wash my hands, clean the grocery cart handles at the store, use hand sanitizers often. I also had all the old grey filling in my teeth removed (12) filled in with white filling and felt pain leave my legs before I left the doctor’s office. So no more mercury for me if at all possible and may you all out there make the right decision for your own bodies. By the way, my family doctor told me NEVER to get another flu shot. (Grey fillings have mercury in them).

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  39. Never had vaccines as a kid. Never had a flu shot. Never get sick. Same goes for my son and grandson. For me it’s common sense, something tragically lacking in the world today. Put poison in your body and face the consequences. The latest flu season 2013 sees the government and big pharma pushing flu shots like never before and the public are running to the nearest syringe. Quackery, pure quackery.

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  40. I am feeling so awful, with lots of weird symptoms after getting the flu shot this year for the first time. I wil never get it again!

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  41. Recently in January I found out I was pregnant, I was recommended a flu shot. I miscarried the day after receiving the vaccination.I am now unable to have any more children and I am only 20 years old. we listened to our vaccine pushing doctor with our first son . but now at one and a half he no longer recives vaccinations , I wish I would have know sooner and saved my lost child and exposed my son to less toxins. I truly wonder every day if my vaccinations as a child are the reasons for my infertility issues and my kidney disease. I almost lost my son during my first full term pregnancy 8 times and was told their was little chance of him not having a deformation or retardation. we were blessed and he was healthy and happy ( despite our many surgerys while pregnant and rhshots) our family is now happily vaccine free and on a great natural diet. oh and my doctor urges me to get a flu shot to this day knowing I have kidney disease, luckky I know its a bad idea. thank you so much for your website, I can only hope it saves lives

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  42. I wish you would post on Facebook at the National Vaccine Information Center’s page. There are some “scientist” who are telling the mothers they are all wrong about being against vaccines and treating them terribly. I had my own personal bad experience as a young child. I had my vaccines done and didn’t feel well. My mom came in to check on me and was horrified to see me with my eyes rolled into the back of my head, speaking incoherently and moving around strangely. She decided then and there that this would be the end of my vaccinations. My mom talked to my doctor and even he agreed that I should never have vaccinations as a child and gave me a “pass” to take to school with me. I appreciate all that you do and hope the truth prevails. Thank you for this wonderful site!

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  43. I think this was a great article and I posted it on my facebook timeline. I will also include it somewhere on my website. http://www.Back2HealthNJ.com

    Keep it up.

    vaxtruth.org

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  44. You can’t compare the type of mercury in fish to that in the influenza vaccine. You need to know your chemistry… They are two different types of mercury. There are two, very different, types of mercury which people should know about: methylmercury and ethylmercury.

    Mercury is a naturally occurring element found in the earth’s crust, air, soil, and water. Since the earth’s formation, volcanic eruptions, weathering of rocks and burning coal have caused mercury to be released into the environment. Once released, certain types of bacteria in the environment can change mercury into methylmercury. Methylmercury makes its way through the food chain in fish, animals, and humans. At high levels, it can be toxic to people. For more information about methylmercury: please read “What You Need to Know about Mercury in Fish and Shellfish” from the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).

    Thimerosal contains a different form of mercury called ethylmercury. Studies comparing ethylmercury and methylmercury suggest that they are processed differently in the human body. Ethylmercury is broken down and excreted much more rapidly than methylmercury. Therefore, ethylmercury (the type of mercury found in the influenza vaccine) is much less likely than methylmercury (the type of mercury in the environment) to accumulate in the body and cause harm.

    However, even knowing the difference in the mercuries I personally still feel conflicted on the vaccine! So many controversies its like you are damned if you do and damned if you don’t!

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    • There are actually hundreds of studies that indicate and explain the danger from ethylmercury exposure via injection route. I will highlight just a few.

      The Vaccine Establishment’s SAFETY Debate: Use of Thimerosal in vaccines Versus the admittedly dangerous use of methylmercury is a grouping of studies. These studies, as brought to light by Dr. King, establish that ethylmercury (Thimerosal), a “supposedly harmless” compound of mercury according to the vaccine establishment, is converted in the rat and apparently in the human infant into “methylmercury” which, the establishment admits is a harmful form of mercury.

      Several pages of the paper examine the toxicity of methylmercury and its past use as a fungicide. We are led to believe that this form of mercury is much different than ethylmercury, the type found in vaccines. This is in spite of the fact that ethylmercury was used for the same purpose. In fact, Ethylmercurric Chloride, the material used as a fungicide (which was banned long ago) is what is used to make thimerosal. This can be easily confirmed by looking in a Merck Index. We now know that this type of mercury deposits twice as much inorganic mercury in the brains of primates as compared to equal doses of methylmercury. Inorganic mercury, following the de-methylation of organic mercury, has been identified as the primary neurotoxic agent in primate studies. (please see: Burbacher T, Shen D, Liberato N, Grant K, Cernichiari E, Clarkson T. 2005. Comparison of blood and brain mercury levels in infant monkeys exposed to methylmercury or vaccines containing thimerosal. Environmental Health Perspectives. 113:1015-1021. LES INCOMPETANTS: OPEN LETTER TO THE AAP By K. Paul Stoller, M.D.)

      Health officials often claim that ethylmercury—the type of mercury found in vaccines containing thimerosal—should not be compared to methylmercury, a well-established neurotoxin. However, a Russian study found that adults exposed to much lower concentrations of ethylmercury than those given to American children still suffered brain damage years later. In 1985, the Archives of Toxicology published a comparative study that administered similar doses of ethylmercury and methylmercury to rats. The ethylmercury-treated rats had higher amounts of inorganic mercury in their kidneys and brains.91 In August 2005, a study funded by the National Institutes of Health also found that ethylmercury is more toxic to the brain than methylmercury. It crosses the blood-brain barrier quicker and converts to inorganic mercury—which is more difficult to excrete and stays in the brain longer—at much higher levels.

      Bottom line: ethylmercury is incredibly dangerous to the brain. A great case for this is the fact that the CDC saw fit to “remove” it from vaccines. It’s clearly toxic and there are far too many studies that prove this.

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  45. Last year I got influenza A and I was admitted in the hospital because it was bad well the flu ended up damaging my heart and now I have tracardia atril fibrillation with a low heart rate…I will always get the flu shot for now on because honestly attempting to prevent this is better then doing nothing at all. My heart rate dropped to 30 and they had to go in and fix it or I was gonna have to get a pacemaker..which I still may end up with…I would do what’s in your heart to do but I know I will never take the chance of this happening again. I 33 and want to live to see my kids grow up. I never took the flu seriously until now.

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    • Aubrey –

      While in rare instances, the flu can cause hospitalization, it most likely was not the cause of your **tachycardia atrial fibrillation** (please look at the correct spelling of this condition so you can do some research about it).

      The causes of this condition is more likely caused by a side effect of medication (knowing that while you were in the hospital they, without a doubt, “doped” you up on medication), damage to heart tissues from heart disease (look up causes for heart disease — it’s not influenza), abnormal electrical pathways in the heart present at birth (congenital – you may have already had a heart problem and just didn’t know it but the medication they gave you exacerbated this condition to present itself), high blood pressure, smoking, drinking too much alcohol, drinking too many caffeinated beverages, abuse of recreational drugs such as cocaine, an imbalance of electrolytes, mineral-related substances necessary for conducting electrical impulses, or overactive thyroid (hyperthyroidism – very common in women in their 30s).

      While I have no doubt that a doctor may have told you this was caused by you getting the flu simply because you didn’t get the flu shot would be no surprise to me. This type of bullying happens thousands of times a day in the realm of Modern Medicine. If you had gotten the flu shot and had gotten the flu anyway (which usually happens since there are over a hundred different flu strains and only a couple strains are in the flu vaccine which means it only protects against 2 or 3 of the over 100 strains) they likely would not have told you that this condition was caused by the flu. This double standard is so prevalent. And it looks like they did their job — they got you to buy more vaccines – FOR LIFE! They now have a life-long customer because they fed you some garbage shpeal about this heart condition being caused by the flu.

      Just remember that the flu vaccine won’t protect you from getting a horrible, awful, miserable, flu. But there are ways to naturally protect yourself from getting the flu — consider taking a liquid Vitamin D3 supplement daily – 1,000 I.U. for every 25lbs of weight. That has been proven in many studies to actually protect you, while the flu vaccine still continues to fail to prevent the flu in lab studies.

      Think about it.

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  46. I am a parent of an 18th month old son in daycare. How do you compare the risks of being around that many kids and adults which means an increased chance of getting the flu, compared to vaccine consequences? I see daycare as a “high risk” environment due to the number of people your kid shares germs with. CDC lists 3,000 to 49,000 deaths a year from influenza. Regardless of what side of that range the real number is, its high enough to be concerned with a child in daycare. How many reported cases of extreme reactions to the thermiseol free shot are there? 10, 100, 1000, 10,000 a year?

    I see pros and cons either way…

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    • Well, if you consider a pro to be a 3 times greater risk of hospitalization if you give your child the vaccine, then the ball’s in your court. *raises eyebrow*

      But really, Zach, I can see your concerns. I would also agree a daycare as being a high-risk environment for contracting illnesses in general, not just the flu. But here’s how I look at the flu:

      Pros– Possibly protect from 2 or 3 strains of the flu that MIGHT be going around.

      Cons — Exposure to an outrageous amount of toxins in one sitting, trusting that lasts years flu strains are still the most popular strains running around this year, 3 times greater risk for hospitalization, a greater risk of contracting flu (and other illnesses) in the 2 weeks following vaccination, increased risk of death (see: http://whale.to/m/vaers8.html, http://whale.to/vaccine/fluisrael.html, http://whale.to/vaccine/flu4.html, http://whale.to/vaccines/flu644.html, http://whale.to/v/flu1.html, http://whale.to/v/kalokerinos.html), increased risk of alzheimer’s (See: http://whale.to/vaccines/flu11.html), increased risk of brain damage, asthma (see:Pediatric Infectious Disease Journal, February 2004, and http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/07/23/1090464867466.html), increased risk of MS and Guillian Burre Syndrome (see: An article in Pulse, 20/10/03, reported on a US Government-funded inquiry which stated ‘a causal link between influenza vaccine and the onset of multiple sclerosis and Guillain-Barre Syndrome’cannot be ruled out, http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/story/2008/10/22/bc-fku-shot-paralysis.html) and the simple fact that they just don’t work (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=flu-shots-may-not-protect-the-elderly-or-the-very-young, 1998 AGM report of The Ligue pour Ia Liberte des Vaccinations, http://www.beyondconformity.co.nz/hilarys-desk/flu-jab-doesnt-work-in-healthy-elderly). < --- those are just a few links and information in the sea of research about the dangers and ineffectiveness of the flu vaccine.

      The flu vaccine is clearly, and always has been, a money maker. I can see somewhat more of an argument in favor of other vaccines, but not the flu shot. It doesn't make sense, it doesn't help, and it clearly is more of a danger than contracting the flu.

      "In the course of a vaccination trial that took place in France on October 1st, 1981, Professor Mercie, former director of the glamorous Pasteur Institute, was asked why the Institute kept producing and selling its anti-'flu vaccine despite its recognized worthlessness. Professor Mercie's candid reply: 'Because it helps financing the Institute's research'." - (Hans Ruesch, Naked Empress p81)

      "This practice could generate up to £3,700 from an effective annual influenza vaccination campaign if it immunised 10% of the practice."--Pulse article (http://whale.to/vaccines/money.html)

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      • But that does not address deaths. 3,000-49,000 is a vague number, but if on the low end 3,000 people dry from the flu each year in the US, how many people die from the vaccine – 2-3? Those articles are all showing 1 from 2008, 2007, 1997, etc.

        I know you can debate that the flu vaccine does not work, so nobody truly knows how many people it saves each year. But, if its 3,000 deaths from flu to 2-3 from vaccine each year, that is an easy win for the vaccine.

        If there are 200,000 hospitilzations from the flu in the US each year – are you saying there are 600,000 hospitalizations from flu vaccines??? Can you send me that link so I can review? If true, that is a clear win for anti vaccine – but can you send me the source on that?

        Since I am not a Dr I need clear facts to help make my decision. I am trying to read up on how dangerous ethylmercury is. I found this link – http://www.hindawi.com/journals/jt/2012/373678/ – seems reputable. Its mostly chinese to me but I will review and bring to my Dr. If there are any DR’s on the board that can summarize or explain these findings that would be wonderful!

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        • Here is another article that might interest you. It puts the flu (and flu deaths for children) into perspective a little bit better: http://vaxtruth.org/2012/01/death-by-flu-shot-7-year-old-receives-flu-vaccine-dies-4-days-later/.

          The CDC’s estimation of how many deaths are from the flu is, as described above, a complete and total guess. They practically pull the number out of the air, and it’s not based on any sort of testing or definites. And to further stir the pot, of how many deaths are actually caused by the flu are from the strains NOT in the flu vaccine, and to go even further, how many of those people received or did not receive a flu shot. Just because 3,000 people die from the flu does not mean that it’s because they didn’t receive a flu shot. The majority of them probably either contracted a flu strain not contained in the vaccine, or the vaccine may have failed. Who’s to tell? From my article I just posted about the 7 year old that died from the flu shot, you can see that the risk of dying from the flu is so, so so small. The majority of deaths occur in people over the age of 50. Flu shots for children are just for dollars.

          We can also talk about flu deaths vs flu vaccine deaths all day, but the fact of the matter is that death is not the only things to fear when it comes to the vaccine. The vaccine causes so many other problems (physical/neurological) as well that it just doesn’t make sense to take the risk when the risks from the flu are so small.

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        • You might also take this into consideration:

          “Vaccination is not necessary, not useful, does not protect. There are twice as many casualties from vaccination as from AIDS” Dr. med. Gerhard Buchwald, 1988, West Germany, specialist of internal diseases and participant in about 150 trials of vaccination victims.

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          • that article talks about how small the % is people/kids that die from the Flu. But what is the % of people that die from Vaccines? I imagine even smaller. I am trying to stack numbers vs numbers – but it appears that may not be possible.

          • That won’t EVER be possible because A) People (doctors/CDC/people in general) don’t like that kind of information getting out and B)”they” just don’t study it. So you’re right, you can’t compare numbers vs. numbers and never will be able to.

            That article should put the flu into perspective. It’s not as scary as they would like you to believe. The flu certainly isn’t fun, but it’s certainly not deadly on the scale by which they like to try and get us to believe. And again, we have to weigh the benefits of an almost useless vaccine (due to it not working, it wears off, and the fact it doesn’t protect from 95% of the flu strains out there) to the known benefits of NOT vaccinating (like a stronger immune system, the benefit of not having asthma, eczema, neurological disorders, etc).

            Just curious, what is the mother of your child’s view on this subject?

            (Edit: I just realized I’m signed in to my husband’s account. This is still Megan.:) )

          • Here’s one more article that might interest you. http://vaxtruth.org/2011/08/vaccine-ingredients/

        • Jumping in here a year late but I’m here.
          To answer your question about the Flu death-it’s a blatant lie! CDC knows it’s a lie and the Vaccine industry knows it’s a lie. The number are computer generated and here is an article from a Canadian newspaper on how it’s done: Flu deaths reality check: Credibility of flu models disputed By Kelly Crowe, CBC News. http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/story/2012/11/22/flu-deaths-crowe.html

          In the 2011-12 Flu season there are only to date 18 confirmed influential deaths. That is deaths confirmed by testing, not based on symptoms. There has NEVER been 36,000 death from the flu in contemporary times. Before you buy into the PR machinery of the CDC and big pharma go check out the CDC’s National Vital Statics Report. Everyone born in the US, every illness is documented, every death is documented and what the person died from is there.

          Influenza Mortality Rate
          Year Deaths per 100,000

          1979 609 0.1
          1981 3006 0.6
          1983 1431 0.3
          1985 2054 0.3
          1987 632 0.1
          1989 1593 0.3
          1991 1137 0.2
          1993 1044 0.2
          1995 606 0.1
          1996 745 0.1
          1997 720 0.1
          1998 1724 0.2
          1999 1665 0.6
          2000 1765 0.6
          2001 257 0.1
          2002 727 0.2
          2003 1792 0.6
          2004 1100 0.4
          2005 1,812 confirmed?
          2006 849 confirmed ?
          2007 411 conformed ?
          2008 16
          2009 48 total but 28 unconfirmed as Flu
          2010 500 or 494 but only 16 confirmed as Flu (2 pages given)
          2012 18 confirmed

          Keep in mind these deaths are out of a population of 300 million. CDC doesn’t like to give out the exact “confirmed” number because it doesn’t support their 36,000 a year die from the flu mantra they have been chanting since 2000.

          1. Flu deaths are attributed primarily to bacterial pneumonia triggered by the flu symptoms. The flu itself cannot kill you
          2. Most victims of the flu are those 65 years and older
          3. In almost every instance a compromised immune system is a key factor in those victims who succumb to the flu

          Sorry for the wiggly line but the list is still readable. Also, I think it may have been mentioned but the Cochrane Collaboration study indicates there is no value in the Flu Vaccine:

          -No Value in Any Influenza Vaccine: Cochrane Collaboration Study: http://gaia-health.com/gaia-blog/2012-10-05/no-value-in-any-influenza-vaccine-cochrane-collaboration-study/

          -Flu Vaccines Can Make Influenza Worse: Study: http://gaia-health.com/gaia-blog/2013-08-30/flu-vaccines-can-make-influenza-worse-study/

          -What Science Says About Getting A Flu Shot: http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/what-science-says-about-getting-flu-shot

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      • I did find this article informative – (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=flu-shots-may-not-protect-the-elderly-or-the-very-young – thanks for sharing. I wish there was a larger sample size or more studies to confirm their findings. 66 kids statistically is large enough but when I think about people’s immune response and how different people react to virus/infections I wish it was a little larger. But, very interesting…

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  47. I’m 68 yrs old … never had a flu vaccine …. if I get symptoms of flu such as fever , sore throat, slight cough I take the following and it is gone in hrs….. Colloidal Silver and Super Echinacea (read instructions on bottle) can buy in health food stores….. Also take the homeopathic flu remedy Ossicillium (Sp?) buy at regular drug store in orange and wht box ….. No need for Mercury in my blood :)

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    • Oscillococcinum by Boiron

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  48. Where I live in Canada the government pays for the flu shot so I am confused when earlier it was mentioned that there is financial incentive for people to get the flu shot…. My family has been getting the flu shot for years now and we have always gotten along well with it and we are never sick with influenza. I think we will continue to get it, as the saying goes “if it’s not broken don’t try to fix it”

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    • April – it’s a financial incentive for the vaccine companies, and if the government is paying for it, then that really means YOU are paying for it. The government’s income is YOU, the people. If people think they are getting something for free, then it means that it’s a gold mine for the vaccine companies because more people will get the shots — which means more money in their pockets.

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  49. As a medical professional, I do not take vaccinations. I instead use proper nutrition to keep my immune system functioning optimally. There are more reactions to vaccines than are reported, especially in those vaccinations given to medical staff. More and more medical professionals are refusing vaccinations, and are now being threatened with their jobs if they refuse. Thank you for your post. There is much research on this topic, but look outside the U.S. The research here is slanted by pharmaceutical companies that profit enormously.

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  50. I never have gotten the flu vaccine, never will, and I have never had the flu. I eat healthy make sure I get lots of vitamin D from sunshine and supplement and make sure I drink lots of water and a vegan diet, It’s amazing what healthy living exercise and healthy eating will do for your immune system.

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  51. New question for you Megan – http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/SafetyAvailability/VaccineSafety/UCM096228 – This website shows that some Flu vaccines have Thermisol, trace amounts of thermisol, and some some contain 0 Thermisol.

    I count 7 different Flu Vaccines for the inactive Virus. Can you confirm or refute these claims that some Flu vaccines are in fact 100% thermisol free?

    If this is correct, are there any other concerns or side effects if there is 0% mercury content?

    Thanks for your reply!

    Zach

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  52. I used to work in a hospital as a secretary on the floor and wasn’t required to get the flu shot because I didn’t provide direct patient care, although I had to wear a mask in the common areas. I now work in an oncology clinic and am face to face with patients all day long and have been told I must get the flu shot or else wear a mask. The idea of wearing a mask eight hours a day for six months is not attractive, but neither is taking that darned shot. The mask is hot and communication is muffled, especially on the phone. I’m scheduled for a “thimerosal-free” shot next week, although after reading all of the above, I have my reservations. (Sidebar – thimerosal-free falls into the same definition bucket as gluten-free. Yes, a certain amount of gluten is still allowed in foods labeled gluten-free. That could kill someone. Who wrote the rules and decided to play God with our lives?)

    It gets my goat that I’m probably one of the healthiest employees in my workplace, even at 56, and yet must still fall prey to this insanity. I exercise regularly, take supplements, have a strong immune system, and I was the one watching the nurses complain about the aftermath of the flu shot and calling out sick.

    I’m 100% in agreement in that this is a huge moneymaker for Big Pharma. And it’s ludicrous to me that the powers-to-be think that trying to anticipate what flu strain will rear its ugly head each year will really help. There are so many strains and they mutate constantly. It plain just doesn’t make sense.

    Lastly, I’d like to believe in the chiropractic part of the original article. I regularly see my chiropractor who works wonders for me. At my ten-year high school reunion I remember fellow students on the track to becoming orthopedic doctors and laughing at me when I mentioned seeing a chiropractor. They said I’d be in to see them in the end. With my exercise routine and yoga practices, guess who’s laughing now?

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  53. There is no such thing as a thimerosal free, mercury free flu shot. While the mercury is simply reduced, anyone who understands homeopathy knows that a small amount of a substance can have a huge affect. Shell of
    “Recovering Autism, ADHD, & Special Needs.”

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  54. Take a look at Ca. Mercury content of supposedly Thimerosal free shots, a product made to protect Manufacturers of vaccines, not you.http://www.cdph.ca.gov/programs/immunize/Pages/CaliforniaThimerosalLaw.aspx

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  55. I probably would be more prone to agree with this article had the author not used sources that were clearly of the anti-vaccine bias.

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    • Right, because the EPA, FDA, Mayo Clinic, University of Calgary, Web MD, CDC, Science Daily, Published medical journals, University of Cambridge, and medical professionals are clearly ALL anti-vaccine. Yikes, Molly. Yikes.

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  56. Your information about the levels of Thimerosal are not accurate. Thimerosal is a derivative of mercury and not pure mercury.
    “The 0.5-mL prefilled syringe presentation is formulated without preservative. However, thimerosal, a mercury derivative used during manufacturing, is removed by subsequent purification steps to a trace amount (≤ 1 mcg mercury per 0.5-mL dose).
    The 5-mL multidose vial formulation contains thimerosal, a mercury derivative, added as a preservative. Each 0.5-mL dose from the multidose vial contains 25 mcg mercury.” FLUVIRIN brand influenza vaccine Novartis Vaccines and Diagnostics Limited drug insert. Your conversions to PPB are questionable as well.

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    • Sharon – Thimerosal is 49.5% mercury. The common misconception that the CDC, vaccine companies, and your doctor will try to tell you is that it’s been “removed” from vaccines is very, VERY, false. I touch on that in Myth #1 above, but go further into depth with that here: http://vaxtruth.org/2011/08/vaccine-ingredients/.

      As for the PPB – my math is right. Feel free to check it. :)

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  57. Thank you thank you thank you!!! You are doing a curagus and nobal deed in writing this. Your answers to every opposition are excellently done. I’m doing research now before any shots! Why didn’t I listen to my gut and not everyone who pushed this crap me and my Family. Please keep up this work we need more honest knowledgeable people like your self in our curupt medical world. I only cringe to think what my pets are shot up with :(

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  58. first and foremost i would like to thank the author for providing source links to all of his replies to the comments that were posted.
    i found more info in the comments than the article….which is pretty cool….. so what ever happened to those brave and macho people that had so much to say ? not only were they disrespectful in their comments they had no source link to support their views….
    coriklykov
    shareeta
    Theo Brandywine
    babydoc
    its so funny to have so much to say with such a firm belief but then when an informed response is given with source link supporting the respone they just fall off the radar.
    well done . chalk up another victory on the quest for truth…thank you again from the whole heart that beats within

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  59. Here are more vaccine ingredients which doctors do not know about!
    http://vactruth.com/2013/08/05/doctor-vaccine-ingredients/

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  60. I received the flu injection last year 2012 after about 1-2 yours I felt like my chest was tight after a few more minutes I could not swallow . felt thick than my upper lip started swelling. my daughter took me directly to urgent care. they gave me a shot on my bottom to counteract this. need to know if this has happened to anyone else. I will not get a flu shot again.

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  61. PLEASE ANSWER! I have a relative who is a Ph.D epidemiologist. She said that there are 2 kinds of mercury: Methyl and Ethyl. one is very toxic, the other (used in shots containing thimerosal) isn’t, partly because the body rapidly excretes it (she says). Can anyone provide some Verifiable Facts on this please? She is someone I have a lot of confidence in, but I’m still paranoid, & get the preservative “free” shot when I can. In my experience, flu shots have been Very effective in not getting flu; Every year I don’t get the shot I Do get the flu. Thanks.

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    • There are actually hundreds of studies that indicate and explain the danger from ethylmercury exposure via injection route. I will highlight just a few.

      The Vaccine Establishment’s SAFETY Debate: Use of Thimerosal in vaccines Versus the admittedly dangerous use of methylmercury is a grouping of studies. These studies, as brought to light by Dr. King, establish that ethylmercury (Thimerosal), a “supposedly harmless” compound of mercury according to the vaccine establishment, is converted in the rat and apparently in the human infant into “methylmercury” which, the establishment admits is a harmful form of mercury.

      Several pages of the paper examine the toxicity of methylmercury and its past use as a fungicide. We are led to believe that this form of mercury is much different than ethylmercury, the type found in vaccines. This is in spite of the fact that ethylmercury was used for the same purpose. In fact, Ethylmercurric Chloride, the material used as a fungicide (which was banned long ago) is what is used to make thimerosal. This can be easily confirmed by looking in a Merck Index. We now know that this type of mercury deposits twice as much inorganic mercury in the brains of primates as compared to equal doses of methylmercury. Inorganic mercury, following the de-methylation of organic mercury, has been identified as the primary neurotoxic agent in primate studies. (please see: Burbacher T, Shen D, Liberato N, Grant K, Cernichiari E, Clarkson T. 2005. Comparison of blood and brain mercury levels in infant monkeys exposed to methylmercury or vaccines containing thimerosal. Environmental Health Perspectives. 113:1015-1021. LES INCOMPETANTS: OPEN LETTER TO THE AAP By K. Paul Stoller, M.D.)

      Health officials often claim that ethylmercury—the type of mercury found in vaccines containing thimerosal—should not be compared to methylmercury, a well-established neurotoxin. However, a Russian study found that adults exposed to much lower concentrations of ethylmercury than those given to American children still suffered brain damage years later. In 1985, the Archives of Toxicology published a comparative study that administered similar doses of ethylmercury and methylmercury to rats. The ethylmercury-treated rats had higher amounts of inorganic mercury in their kidneys and brains.91 In August 2005, a study funded by the National Institutes of Health also found that ethylmercury is more toxic to the brain than methylmercury. It crosses the blood-brain barrier quicker and converts to inorganic mercury—which is more difficult to excrete and stays in the brain longer—at much higher levels.

      Bottom line: ethylmercury is incredibly dangerous to the brain. A great case for this is the fact that the CDC saw fit to “remove” it from vaccines. It’s clearly toxic and there are far too many studies that prove this.

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  62. Hi. I’ve noticed you’ve mentioned that they have used aluminum as a placebo in vaccine trials. I’m familiar with aluminum and it’s side effects. I have heard of them doing this, I however can not find a way to prove it when discussing it with my peers. Do you have a source that can help me? Thanks.

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  63. Big pharma has now come to my local hospital and has pushed the “bigwigs” into insisting that all staff members get the yearly flu vaccine or (believe it or not) they are fired!! Outrageous and unamerican!

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